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Old 06-29-2011, 09:19 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
In one of the latest emails from SD, he mentioned that the 737 fleet has a lot of credit in their rotations. He was mentioning it relation to a possible DTW 737 base. Can any of the 737 guys here talk about the credit they see in their rotations? Where does it seem to be coming from?

Seems strange there would be so much credit when we have lots of 737 bases - I can't see why there would be much deadheading or short days that generate lots of credit.
Apparently scheduling looks at a layover as "credit." They hate credit. That is why the 320 was opened in ATL. Many of the islands turns that the DTW 320 was doing had an overnight in ATL because of duty day. They want to do away with that.

Turn that same metric in DTW on the 737. There are a lot of layovers in DTW on the 737. You will see this opening up in DTW in the not too distant future.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Apparently scheduling looks at a layover as "credit." They hate credit. That is why the 320 was opened in ATL. Many of the islands turns that the DTW 320 was doing had an overnight in ATL because of duty day. They want to do away with that.

Turn that same metric in DTW on the 737. There are a lot of layovers in DTW on the 737. You will see this opening up in DTW in the not too distant future.
Agreed. I figured we would see on by early 2012.
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It is not free of company obligation, it is free from duty or "on call" reserve. Big Difference.
Care to explain this "big difference?"
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Old 06-29-2011, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by orvil
Apparently scheduling looks at a layover as "credit." They hate credit. That is why the 320 was opened in ATL. Many of the islands turns that the DTW 320 was doing had an overnight in ATL because of duty day. They want to do away with that.

Turn that same metric in DTW on the 737. There are a lot of layovers in DTW on the 737. You will see this opening up in DTW in the not too distant future.

You think they hate it now, wait until the next contract and we have daily trip guarantee jacked up over 6.25hr/day. THAT will induce more efficient line creation.
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:28 AM
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If correct, look at the number of pilots over 60 in ATL A and DTW A positions. Not so much of 62 and above but 60 and 61 years old. For instance, ATL 765 A, 42% are above 60 but only 3% of the category is over 62. Very similar numbers for 744 A.

Just food for thought on where movement may be generated in the next few years to come.





Now if 744 B would have retirements and the fence dropped, good ole Carl may have to put up with good ole 80 and FTB on a trip. "Gosh, it stinks in the crew rest area?"
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Old 06-29-2011, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Care to explain this "big difference?"
I was wondering the same thing???
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:05 AM
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I thought tomorrow's paycheck was supposed to be where we see half of the reserve guarantee....mine doesn't reflect that.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by nwaf16dude
Care to explain this "big difference?"
The big difference is that you can be on a trip, and not on duty, but not from company obligation. For many regional drivers here, they had in their contracts a calender day off at home in seven not a 24 hr period free from duty, which could be "rest" in the middle of a trip. Many people confuse the two.

They can also assign you a trip that reports after this rest period ends while you are on it.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by sevenfiveseven
When you get the chance - check out www.ipubs.me (for security, the login info in in the computer section of DALPA forums). Two fleets are completed with more to come. It appears to be an easy way to sync an iPhone or iPad with all the latest publications needed excluding Jepps. Now, hopefully we can use them in the cockpit sometime soon.

So far it's setup and running for the 777, 757/767, M88, 737 and iALPA. Looking to get volunteers for the other fleets too. It's very much a work in progress so give your feedback on what you like and what needs improvement.
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Old 06-29-2011, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Professor
You think they hate it now, wait until the next contract and we have daily trip guarantee jacked up over 6.25hr/day. THAT will induce more efficient line creation.
I would not mind better trip efficiency. A min day combined with the duty limits that are proposed in the FT/DT will result in shorter overnights; 12-13 hrs) and shorter or more efficient duty periods. It means that your butt will be operating a jet while at work, not sitting in the crew lounge waiting for your next turn as an ad hock ready reserve.
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