Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-28-2011, 08:50 AM
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..... and in what is seemingly coming to light after all the ready fire aim comments.. mine included.. this proposal was put forth in October of last year...
06-28-2011, 08:55 AM
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Not to be too gloomy, but I'll bet Delta's opener next spring will be a similarly huge slap in our faces. We'd better be ready for it.
06-28-2011, 09:05 AM
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Yep. The 50 seater is uneconomical so the company wants to get rid of them. The company does not want to replace the 50 seaters with us. It wants to bring in regional jets bigger than the DC-9. Our scope battle at the regional level is not done. Our line in the sand is looked at by the company as a line in the sand. It needs to be a line in concrete.
06-28-2011, 09:09 AM
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FTB, he wasn't talking YOY. He specifically said 15%-20% raise over a 4 year contract. Basically around 3%-5% YOY.
Tried clarifying it with him, and this is fact what he meant.
I actually don't like talking about what we should be negotiating for in the next contract on these boards because management types could use it as a reference, but I don't see a 5% raise every year being taken as anything less than a joke. (All other contract variables being equal)
Tried clarifying it with him, and this is fact what he meant.
I actually don't like talking about what we should be negotiating for in the next contract on these boards because management types could use it as a reference, but I don't see a 5% raise every year being taken as anything less than a joke. (All other contract variables being equal)
Ouch.
Had to get 10 characters, but this mindset can be used for something useful on this forum, TA voting time not so much.
06-28-2011, 09:10 AM
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Heyas Johnso,
A bunch of years ago, when we had 800 guys on furlough, I was sitting reserve, and got called out to do a DH & one leg back. Turned out to be a ferry flight.
The guy I was flying with had a WAY low number for doing a reserve gig like this, so I asked him what was up.
The short version is he lived by the airport, and he told me that scheduling were his buds and would call him for favors like this and he was happy to do them. I said "um, you know we got 800 guys on furlough, right?"
He came right out and said "I don't care about any of that stuff".
There will always be a percentage of guys like this.
Nu
A bunch of years ago, when we had 800 guys on furlough, I was sitting reserve, and got called out to do a DH & one leg back. Turned out to be a ferry flight.
The guy I was flying with had a WAY low number for doing a reserve gig like this, so I asked him what was up.
The short version is he lived by the airport, and he told me that scheduling were his buds and would call him for favors like this and he was happy to do them. I said "um, you know we got 800 guys on furlough, right?"
He came right out and said "I don't care about any of that stuff".
There will always be a percentage of guys like this.
Nu
06-28-2011, 09:13 AM
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"Delta refuses to pay it's female and minority pilots as much as SWA does for their male pilots doing the same work. We're just demanding equal pay for equal work."
06-28-2011, 09:32 AM
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That's great! I pray our DALPA leadership will have manhood for this!
As for me I think doubling our rates and 50 seat scope is a good start.
Strike fund is ready!
06-28-2011, 09:36 AM
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You know, you have a point, theoretically every pay cut or bad contract in the industry is racist and sexist. Someone call the ACLU!!!
06-28-2011, 09:37 AM
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Yep. The 50 seater is uneconomical so the company wants to get rid of them. The company does not want to replace the 50 seaters with us. It wants to bring in regional jets bigger than the DC-9.Our scope battle at the regional level is not done. Our line in the sand is looked at by the company as a line in the sand. It needs to be a line in concrete.
Carl
06-28-2011, 10:09 AM
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Well, just received the latest "Air Line Pilot" magazine. It brags about how great ALPA did over the last decade.
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