Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
06-26-2011, 05:58 PM
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Heyas Nu,
If you can stomach "Made in China" what you describe exists.
Built on the tooling ships 965 and 964 were built on, here's everything you wanted plus glass.
RNP is part of NexGen ATC and you won't be able to fly an airliner without RNP in just a few years, thus the cockpit upgrades in the pipe for the Maddogs.
And now I present
DC-9-30 with Russian wing RJ-motors and a new front window
Avic ARJ21
Personally, I'd prefer the US-made 717....
Cheers
George
If you can stomach "Made in China" what you describe exists.
Built on the tooling ships 965 and 964 were built on, here's everything you wanted plus glass.
RNP is part of NexGen ATC and you won't be able to fly an airliner without RNP in just a few years, thus the cockpit upgrades in the pipe for the Maddogs.
And now I present
DC-9-30 with Russian wing RJ-motors and a new front window
Avic ARJ21
Personally, I'd prefer the US-made 717....
Cheers
George
If I remember right AirTran begged Boeing to increase the range on the 717 or make it larger or something and Boeing said absolutely... it's called a 737-800 and here ya go. AirTran said okay, we'll wet lease A320s. Then a compromise was made and here came 737s.
06-26-2011, 06:04 PM
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06-26-2011, 07:00 PM
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06-26-2011, 07:03 PM
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Speaking of the AMR 80s, was it just conspiracy theorist at work or was there anything to the idea that the MD80s were being replaced by new 738s so as to help drive up the operating costs and therein at some point enter chapter 11 and get back on a level playing field with the other legacies?
If true it lends to Scoops comments, what does management want to accomplish determines the ideal aircraft to operate and/or order.
If true it lends to Scoops comments, what does management want to accomplish determines the ideal aircraft to operate and/or order.
06-26-2011, 09:01 PM
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I'd be happy to see them here, in fact, I'd hit it ... just pointing out the similarities with another nutball project born in 1986, Lindsey Lohan.
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have legal restrictions which limit how high they are supposed to get
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both drink waaay too much
Bonus (11) When either tries to stop, they get the shakes
Bonus 2 (12) Both are frequently driven by people on probation
Bonus 3 (13) The MD88 makes a lot of SkyMiles, Lindsey makes lots of Marlboro miles
Bonus 4 (14) Both do a pretty good job, but getting there involves too much drama
Latest and Greatest
Late Show
TOP TEN
(1) Both started out cute, but got stretchedLate Show
TOP TEN
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have legal restrictions which limit how high they are supposed to get
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both drink waaay too much
Bonus (11) When either tries to stop, they get the shakes
Bonus 2 (12) Both are frequently driven by people on probation
Bonus 3 (13) The MD88 makes a lot of SkyMiles, Lindsey makes lots of Marlboro miles
Bonus 4 (14) Both do a pretty good job, but getting there involves too much drama
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06-26-2011, 09:39 PM
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I'd be happy to see them here ... just pointing out the similarities with Lindsey Lohan ... the top ten:
(1) Both drink way too much
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have limited range due to legal restrictions
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both started out cute, but got stretched
(2) Both smoke
(3) Both make noise when they really should be quiet
(4) Both have limited range due to legal restrictions
(5) Neither does math very quickly
(6) Both are unpredictable when you take them out in public & neither follows commands well
(7) Both get droopy when not powered up
(8) Both leak inappropriately
(9) Both show up in sequels
(10) Both started out cute, but got stretched
06-26-2011, 10:58 PM
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Ouch.
Summary of
Comprehensive United Management Proposal for
Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement
_________________________________________
Section 1 – Scope
o Industry Competitive Regional Flying restrictions:
o 250 maximum large (less than 95 seats) regional jets (no restriction on props)
o Maximum 6% regional jet flying between hubs
o Minimum 90% into/out of Key/Hub Cities
o Add large regional jets for increases in active mainline fleet (consistent with Delta)
o Allow alliances/marketing arrangements so long as pilot positions protected
o ALPA to keep seat on BOD
o ALPA option to reopen for change in control
o CBA binding on successors and affiliates
o ALPA merger policy
o No obligation to perform struck work
o Company to retain management rights
o Company will continue to oppose cabotage
Summary of
Comprehensive United Management Proposal for
Joint Collective Bargaining Agreement
_________________________________________
Section 1 – Scope
o Industry Competitive Regional Flying restrictions:
o 250 maximum large (less than 95 seats) regional jets (no restriction on props)
o Maximum 6% regional jet flying between hubs
o Minimum 90% into/out of Key/Hub Cities
o Add large regional jets for increases in active mainline fleet (consistent with Delta)
o Allow alliances/marketing arrangements so long as pilot positions protected
o ALPA to keep seat on BOD
o ALPA option to reopen for change in control
o CBA binding on successors and affiliates
o ALPA merger policy
o No obligation to perform struck work
o Company to retain management rights
o Company will continue to oppose cabotage
06-26-2011, 11:15 PM
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I dare say, this has to be the longest thread of any forum that I've ever been in.... that not withstanding, I wonder if anyone still subscribed to this thread can find out for me if DAL will re-interview an applicant who was rejected at the final portion (panel) interview? I had heard that you could fail the computer tests or the knowledge test and be re-invited, but not the personnel portion... still true?
06-27-2011, 12:08 AM
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It depends on many factors - the most important being is "What result does management desire at that particular moment?" Once management decides what it would like the end result to be, just fine tune the inputs, duration, assumptions etc, and wala! They have numbers to back them up - magic!
Even if management actually wanted an unbiased answer, it would still driven by subjective assumptions. For example - what will fuel cost next month, next year, or over the life of the aircraft? What is the duration you are looking at etc.
Scoop
Even if management actually wanted an unbiased answer, it would still driven by subjective assumptions. For example - what will fuel cost next month, next year, or over the life of the aircraft? What is the duration you are looking at etc.
Scoop
Carl
06-27-2011, 12:13 AM
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Wow FTB, I agree completely with every word of your post...including the used cars - having been a used car dealer, I can tell you they are money generators.
I think also, the next step for DAL Mgmt is to announce the purchase of every 717 produced for cheap. Gotta work out something with those rolls royce guys, I've got a few connections there, but noone's asking me. Power by the hour worked for the harrier guys.
I think also, the next step for DAL Mgmt is to announce the purchase of every 717 produced for cheap. Gotta work out something with those rolls royce guys, I've got a few connections there, but noone's asking me. Power by the hour worked for the harrier guys.
It's clear to me that RA has decided that paying down debt really is his main goal. To that end, we will be flying really old airplanes for quite a long time. Our 777's and A330's are going to be the newest we see for a while. Hope the gamble works out for us, because this is now our course.
Carl
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