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Old 06-26-2011, 09:02 AM
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:18 AM
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Question for swap with pot or PCS. I'm trying to do my first swap ever, so don't know the rules too well... I've got a 2-5 Jul trip worth 27.6 hours getting in at 2300ish, and want to pick up a 6 Jul trip from someone, and swap a 4-day 8-11 Jul trip to them. My goal is to not have to commute back home on the the 6th only to return on the 7th...

When I looked at a trip in open time, it says "30 in 7 violation"... does this mean that I can only do 2.4 more hours based on the first trip? And on what day can I add another trip, that is, how is the 30 in 7 calculated, running days every day?

Is what I'm trying to do not possible (string together a 6 or 7 day 73n trip?). I don't have to swap 1 for 1, even a 1 day trip would be ok, just don't want to drop a 4-day completely without any replacement.

Thanks! Reading the guides on PCS and swap, but can't find the answer...
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by alfaromeo
Not impossible. Delta will get whatever jets it wants, period.
Alfa is correct.

When we were negotiating to fly the EMB up north, the company said "Nope, no way, they're sold out for 4 years".

When Compass was created, 36 "sold out" airplanes magically appeared virtually overnight.

When they were studying the replacement frieghter "nope, nothing out there that is remotely cost effective and lease rates are too high". Then, magically, a whole bunch of cargo outfits found very cost effective frieghters...virtually overnight.

When they were studying the DC-9 replacement "nope, nothing out there is what we are looking for...too large, too small, not enough cargo, too much cargo, not enough wing, too much wing, won't fit the jetway, too expensive...blah blah blah"

When we let them have more 76 seaters, the EMBs and CRJ900s magically filled the gates where our DC-9s, 737s and 319s parked...virtually overnight.

They want the airplanes....what they don't want is us.

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Old 06-26-2011, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
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Almost as sexy as underboob. It also makes climbing in the Mad Dog depressing
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Question for swap with pot or PCS. I'm trying to do my first swap ever, so don't know the rules too well... I've got a 2-5 Jul trip worth 27.6 hours getting in at 2300ish, and want to pick up a 6 Jul trip from someone, and swap a 4-day 8-11 Jul trip to them. My goal is to not have to commute back home on the the 6th only to return on the 7th...

When I looked at a trip in open time, it says "30 in 7 violation"... does this mean that I can only do 2.4 more hours based on the first trip? And on what day can I add another trip, that is, how is the 30 in 7 calculated, running days every day?

Is what I'm trying to do not possible (string together a 6 or 7 day 73n trip?). I don't have to swap 1 for 1, even a 1 day trip would be ok, just don't want to drop a 4-day completely without any replacement.

Thanks! Reading the guides on PCS and swap, but can't find the answer...

If the Rules Monitor section of Swap with the Pot says you're not legal, you're dead in the water. Even if it says there are no rules violations, you then may get shot down by capped reserve days.
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Old 06-26-2011, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by cni187
Almost as sexy as underboob. It also makes climbing in the Mad Dog depressing
Would be nice to see two flight deck jumpseats, however.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Question for swap with pot or PCS. I'm trying to do my first swap ever, so don't know the rules too well... I've got a 2-5 Jul trip worth 27.6 hours getting in at 2300ish, and want to pick up a 6 Jul trip from someone, and swap a 4-day 8-11 Jul trip to them. My goal is to not have to commute back home on the the 6th only to return on the 7th...

When I looked at a trip in open time, it says "30 in 7 violation"... does this mean that I can only do 2.4 more hours based on the first trip? And on what day can I add another trip, that is, how is the 30 in 7 calculated, running days every day?

Is what I'm trying to do not possible (string together a 6 or 7 day 73n trip?). I don't have to swap 1 for 1, even a 1 day trip would be ok, just don't want to drop a 4-day completely without any replacement.

Thanks! Reading the guides on PCS and swap, but can't find the answer...
It is a rolling 7 day period. If you are already at 27.6 hours on the 5th, then there is no way to pick up something else on the 6th.
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
Would be nice to see two flight deck jumpseats, however.
I don't think it's a very wide airplane... it's same size as a DC-9 or MD88: 2/3 seating. My guess is those pictures were made using a wide-angle lens. (I know they are computer generated)
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Columbia
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Sidestick is marketed to increase safety? whaaa

Also, got to love:

"RNP0.1 capability: allows the aircraft to fly routes with great precision"

Subtle indication of the future?
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Old 06-26-2011, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
My other point is that the market spoke clearly at Paris. Airlines demand the most fuel efficient product. Nothing in the Delta fleet fits that description and our Douglas fleet (including MD88's not a N-S issue) are real outliers. Our local ALPA likes to talk about the death of profligate 50 seaters ... next time you hear that story ask for the statistics on the DC9, MD88 and 747. Then ask, if the numbers are nearly the same, then why are our airplanes different? The truth is, they aren't in management's eyes. We offer larger units of capacity, but the numbers on our jets make the E170, CRJ900 and Alaska's fleet attractive. Republic's upcoming fleet is going to look pretty good also.
I didn't know that the 50 seat RJ was capable of flying to TLV with 400 passengers and a full load of cargo. If I had known that, I would have compared the numbers between the it and the 747.
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