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Old 06-20-2011, 10:43 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Not disagreeing, but I'm sure there are enough ex-B747-400 pilots who would want to work as DGS instructors. It's not just NWA and UAL that flew the -400 in the US. Atlas and Polar have been flying them for years, Kalitta Air has them, and there are I'm sure some retired pilots from foreign carriers such as Lufthansa, BA, KLM, Air France and all the Asian carriers. (Many of the Asian carries employed US pilots on contracts).

I doubt there will be a shortage of high qualified, retired pilots who'd love to teach as DGS instructors.
Who do you want teaching you, some off the wall Air France guy who Knows squat about how we fly the airplane or a guy that knows how we fly it plus tons more previous knowledge from 20 some years of NWA flying it??? That's probably why you guys train only domestic in ATL because the instructors have no idea of International operations???
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Old 06-20-2011, 10:45 AM
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Embraer sees chances of Delta order

Monday June 20, 2011, 11:38 am EDT
By Cesar Bianconi

LE BOURGET, France (Reuters) - Brazilian planemaker Embraer sees "good chances" of firm orders from U.S. carrier Delta Air Lines, which will likely make a decision to renew its fleet by October, a top company executive told Reuters on Monday.

Embraer is competing to win orders from Delta, which will likely buy as many as 100 new regional aircraft to replace its aging fleet. The U.S. carrier could buy a total 400 planes among large, mid-sized and small jets.

"Our expectation is that Delta decides about all this in October ... they are in talks with everyone," Paulo Cesar de Souza e Silva, who heads Embraer's commercial aviation unit, said in an interview at the Paris Air Show.

Silva's comments highlight Embraer's salesforce efforts to defend its market leader position in the regional jet market, which is slowly attracting rivals from China, Russia and Japan. Embraer said earlier in the day that it won orders for 39 E-190 regional jets worth $1.7 billion at list prices at the airshow.

Customers include Air Lease Corp, Air Astana, General Electric, Sriwijaya Air and Kenya Airways, Embraer said. The planemaker predicted demand for 7,225 regional jets in the next 20 years, worth $320 billion.

The world's biggest producer of regional jets is also close to sealing a deal for the sale of six to 10 jets to Republic Airlines, Silva said. Talks with Indonesian airline Garuda could produce a firm order within the next three months, he noted.

Sales announcements are easing worries about Embraer's near-term challenges, which include a strong local currency that drives up production costs, natural disasters and geopolitical tensions around the world that could disrupt deliveries, and a sluggish global economic recovery.

Sao Paulo-traded shares of the company rose slightly on Monday, the second day of gains. Embraer's U.S.-traded stock gained 0.4 percent to $31.82.

Among companies competing for the Delta contract are behemoths Boeing and Airbus, and Canada's Bombardier -- Embraer's archrival in the regional market.

Silva voiced concerns that plans by Airbus and Boeing to ramp up output in coming years could spark a glut of aircraft in global markets.

"Both of them are expecting to deliver 1,000 jets a year. That's a lot," he said.

"If there are disruptions in orders by Malaysia, India, or any global economic problem, it could be bad for the industry as a whole," he added.

(Writing by Guillermo Parra-Bernal, editing by Dave Zimmerman)
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I think it is BS. I hope I am wrong and mainline gets these jets or others. We need more domestic fleet from my limited perspective.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
anyone know if atl a330 is progged to fly india in addition to africa?
Now that the bids are closed, the most prevalent rumor is/was ATL330 to Africa and deep SA.

LOS is supposed to go back to 777 in Oct/Nov timeframe, but we will see how that pans out if they get a second bunk in the 330-200's.

Didn't hear anything about BOM but that is flown out of AMS so it could be done out of any base as it was in the past? Or are you asking about ATL-BOM?
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
I'll take a modest 8,000 or so.
What? Even.....even your old pal Carl?

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Then store them on the airplane, and let the company keep up with the revisions.
You'd have to prohibit all aircraft from landing in DTW.

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Old 06-20-2011, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Not disagreeing, but I'm sure there are enough ex-B747-400 pilots who would want to work as DGS instructors. It's not just NWA and UAL that flew the -400 in the US. Atlas and Polar have been flying them for years, Kalitta Air has them, and there are I'm sure some retired pilots from foreign carriers such as Lufthansa, BA, KLM, Air France and all the Asian carriers. (Many of the Asian carries employed US pilots on contracts).

I doubt there will be a shortage of high qualified, retired pilots who'd love to teach as DGS instructors.


Yep, just takes time. Sorry, I forgot about the cargo carriers. I have been brainwashed by managements, "there's no money in freight" mantra.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
Now that the bids are closed, the most prevalent rumor is/was ATL330 to Africa and deep SA.

LOS is supposed to go back to 777 in Oct/Nov timeframe, but we will see how that pans out if they get a second bunk in the 330-200's.

Didn't hear anything about BOM but that is flown out of AMS so it could be done out of any base as it was in the past? Or are you asking about ATL-BOM?

I heard exactly what you heard, Africa 1st then deep SA. I was hoping they would round it out to include all the MEDs including India. I realize its not a one hop to India.

Truth is, I'm interested in flying India again. That should demographically make me the only 1 out of 12500 pilots.

Speaking of India, I had read that DAL was modifying the depressurization routes to cruise at a higher altitude than 10K'. Has that happened? That should really simplify flying to India. I flew thru Afghanistan and Iran in the daytime 2 things struck me: 1. there were no houses, boats or jetskis on the lakes and 2. Those are some BIIIGGG frikkin mountains.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty
Seriously... I forget when do they typically post these results... is it days or weeks?
As soon as the high-tech Delta computation machines finish the analysis.




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Old 06-20-2011, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by JABDIP
Who do you want teaching you, some off the wall Air France guy who Knows squat about how we fly the airplane or a guy that knows how we fly it plus tons more previous knowledge from 20 some years of NWA flying it???
How about when we get those new aircraft? Should we be taught how to fly the Embraer or CRJ by Pinnacle instructors because they have years of knowledge on how to operate the airplane.

Originally Posted by JABDIP
That's probably why you guys train only domestic in ATL because the instructors have no idea of International operations???
Funny, I didn't know that the 777, 767, & 757 only did domestic.
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Old 06-20-2011, 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Meh.. much ado about nothing.
For some reason, Delta is committed to ensuring non-Delta pilots teach Delta pilots in the simulator. It's not much ado about nothing. It's absolutely inexplicable.

Don't know if this is the case at United, Continental or American, but it sure wasn't the case at Northwest.

Sad to think about how many more Delta pilot jobs this would create.

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