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Old 06-17-2011, 06:24 AM
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I'm guessing this is not a "pass through cost."
US FAA said it is proposing a $425,000 civil penalty against Atlanta-based Atlantic Southeast Airlines, a SkyWest Inc. subsidiary, for allegedly operating two Bombardier CRJ regional jets when they were not in compliance with FAA regulations.

The FAA charged that ASA, flying as Delta Connection, “failed to complete required inspections of the two aircraft after they were struck by lightning. One strike took place on July 21, 2008 and the other on July 23, 2008.” FAA also alleged that “ASA operated the two aircraft on a total of 13 revenue passenger flights between July 22 and 24 when they were not in compliance with regulations.”

FAA regulations require the carrier to conduct and document the detailed check for lightning strike damage mandated in the airline’s aircraft maintenance manual. ASA has 30 days to respond to the agency.
In the past they have received numerous awards, but, when they get really busy stuff gets missed.

Right now they are REALLY BUSY, lots of 200% pay, memos from management begging pilots to come to work (is it a violation of DL policy to post internal memos from other Corporations which are 50% of the Delta brand ). Delta has apparently asked the regionals to do MUCH MORE flying than planned and they are having a hard time covering all the work. FWIW with 200% pay, quite a few CRJ200 Skippers have the potential to out earn some Delta Captains in 2011.

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Old 06-17-2011, 06:25 AM
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nevermind, found the answer
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Old 06-17-2011, 06:54 AM
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I usually don't have problems with the backpack thing.....


I have, however, had issues with my Lunchbox.
I want one!
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:01 AM
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So who flips the bill for ASA to pay it's pilots 200% pay to do flying for delta in replacement of delta pilots to the point they're making supposedly more than some Delta Captains???

Is this a cost that ASA eats from the cost plus profit we pay them or in the end is Delta paying ASA in some way to pay regional pilots more than Delta pilots?

And if regionals are so great for Delta pilots then how is it great that they're being fined for flying Delta passengers in aircraft not in compliance with the FAA and grossly understaffed? Such they're staffing issues are frustrating passengers as they struggle to do all of the flying being shifted their way- despite that supposedly 50 seaters disappear every month?
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Who cares?

Can we have Southwest's scope section?
Bar, what are you willing to give up to get that?



Btw, off limit answers:
1. MD88
2. MD90
3. DC9
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
Southwest Pilots Applaud Termination of SkyWest Codeshare
Thu, 16 Jun '11

Says The Agreement Was A Violation Of Their Contract
The Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association (SWAPA) said Monday it is pleased with Southwest Airlines' recognition of their Collective Bargaining Agreement with the pilots and the contract's prohibition against domestic codeshare. The codeshare agreement with SkyWest is a contract violation and the pilots of Southwest are pleased that the Company chose to honor the negotiated agreement in a timely fashion. The termination of the SkyWest codeshare agreement with AirTran allows both SWAPA and Southwest Airlines to concentrate and devote their collective energies on the tasks at hand.



"This move by our Company demonstrates a strong commitment to their pilots and our contract," said SWAPA President, Captain Steve Chase. "As a wholly owned subsidiary, AirTran and eventually Southwest, have the capability of flying into those markets and delivering superior service."

In late 2009, the Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association ratified its contract with Southwest Airlines that strictly prohibits domestic codeshare and greatly restricts codeshare to near-international destinations. This section of the contract is foundational to the protection of pilots' jobs and careers.



"It inspires confidence when your Company supports the interests of its employees and is willing to honor their negotiated contract," Chase added. "We are proud of the collaborative partnership we have with Southwest Airlines leadership and today's announcement is another example of the benefits of that relationship."
THIS is an excellent example of "constructive engagement." The one sided version of it as practiced by Moak & Co is a farce.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:15 AM
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So SWAPA does a better job at this constructive engagement than Moak such that SWA does things like fight outsourcing.

Also Skywest service just got called out by SWA as incapable of providing superior service. Which means in SWA eyes regional service And/or Skywest is not equal (read seamless) to mainline.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Bar, what are you willing to give up to get that?



Btw, off limit answers:
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2. MD90
3. DC9
Short Answer: Nothing

Long Answer: Who would want to codeshare with an airline that has serious labor problems?

Longer Answer: We need to task our UNION with figuring out how maybe saving 20% on labor costs makes sense when the reality is:
  • RJ Crews and jets pass each other overflying eachother's operations resulting in gross scheduling inefficiencies, lowered utilization and operational snafus. Delta's narrow body flying allocation makes nearly no sense.
  • As these snafus happen the costs are realized in decreased customer service, penalties from our government (including DOT3hr rule) and real money (reference Mesa lawsuit & current incentive pay while pilots & jets in other divisions of Delta are under utilized).
  • RJ Carriers have morphed into serious airlines with fleets approaching the size of Delta's, who claim greater profitability than Delta, while getting paid by Delta.
  • These same carriers have the potential to make an end run around Delta as they seek to diversify their revenue stream. Why not a Korean Air passenger connecting to Republic to get to Anchorage on Alaska? Who needs Delta?
Really, we and management have a common interest here.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by JungleBus
THIS is an excellent example of "constructive engagement." The one sided version of it as practiced by Moak & Co is a farce.
Moak has succeeded in fundamentally changing the philosophy of labor.
ALPA now sees it as their mission to help ensure that the airline is profitable in the hope that better wages and working conditions will follow.
The DPA is apparently not going to be successful in reversing that change in philosophy before the next contract cycle so we all better hope for Moak's new age methods to bear fruit.
They think outsourcing and codesharing and relaxed scope are good for Delta and therefore good for the pilots. Its a huge gamble. We'll see how it goes.
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Old 06-17-2011, 07:27 AM
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Reserve question. If I have a trip on my schedule for a morning sign-in on day one of RES, do I get a short call credit? Let's also say I have a trip that signs in at 0900 on day one and is a two day trip. On day 2, I find out that I have a morning trip tomorrow. Any short call credit there?
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