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06-14-2011, 08:54 AM
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Most WB guys in MSP are the last remnant of the "old guard"...the guys that rolled in off the prarie when they were 18 and have been in MSP since. Guys and gals who are parked in Apple Valley, Edina, Minnetonka, or some other burb of MSP/STP (Peachtree City equivalent for you fDAL types). "The Cities" is the center of the known universe to them. They are going NOWHERE. They've downbid from the 747-200/DC-10 to the 330, and will now do the same by bumping into the 7ER or 320.
You probably have guys that still think that we can't jumpseat and have to send in a travel voucher 6 months ahead of time to get your non-rev tickets.
If I were on the ER or the 320 in MSP, I'd definately have a MD card in.
I rolled the dice on 330 in ATL. Got free crash pad there and a car to use, so, ***.
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06-14-2011, 08:54 AM
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If you think that closing the 330 in MSP is a small thing, just wait for the results. The second most senior paying jet, where more of the A's live in base. If they opt to stay and not retire, we are going to see some ugliness.
Oh and I would not be at a loss for words if CVG and or MEM were shut in the next few bids.
Oh and I would not be at a loss for words if CVG and or MEM were shut in the next few bids.
Sometimes I wonder if they're trying to nudge guys to the other side of the fence.
06-14-2011, 08:58 AM
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LOL...."knowing your pilot group" fail.
Most WB guys in MSP are the last remnant of the "old guard"...the guys that rolled in off the prarie when they were 18 and have been in MSP since. Guys and gals who are parked in Apple Valley, Edina, Minnetonka, or some other burb of MSP/STP (Peachtree City equivalent for you fDAL types). "The Cities" is the center of the known universe to them. They are going NOWHERE. They've downbid from the 747-200/DC-10 to the 330, and will now do the same by bumping into the 7ER or 320.
If I were on the ER or the 320 in MSP, I'd definately have a MD card in.
I rolled the dice on 330 in ATL. Got free crash pad there and a car to use, so, ***.
Nu
Most WB guys in MSP are the last remnant of the "old guard"...the guys that rolled in off the prarie when they were 18 and have been in MSP since. Guys and gals who are parked in Apple Valley, Edina, Minnetonka, or some other burb of MSP/STP (Peachtree City equivalent for you fDAL types). "The Cities" is the center of the known universe to them. They are going NOWHERE. They've downbid from the 747-200/DC-10 to the 330, and will now do the same by bumping into the 7ER or 320.
If I were on the ER or the 320 in MSP, I'd definately have a MD card in.
I rolled the dice on 330 in ATL. Got free crash pad there and a car to use, so, ***.
Nu
The 765 in NYC may go real junior FWIW.
06-14-2011, 08:59 AM
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06-14-2011, 09:01 AM
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06-14-2011, 09:04 AM
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The one thing for sure at least this won't be masked by other major changes. We will all learn a lot from this bid.
06-14-2011, 09:06 AM
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I say MEM is safe and so is CVG. They'll be somewhat tiny though.
Remember, if we can whipsaw our employees and our contractors we sure as hell can whipsaw our airports and local governments. MEM and CVG have a purpose against ATL and DTW.
Remember, if we can whipsaw our employees and our contractors we sure as hell can whipsaw our airports and local governments. MEM and CVG have a purpose against ATL and DTW.
06-14-2011, 09:09 AM
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06-14-2011, 09:23 AM
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DC-9s are going away, so those folks will all get MD'd to other equipment. That leaves only the 320 in MEM. Right now we have about 46 or so departures a day from just LGA on the 320 (could be dated info so DYODD). NYC is screaming out for a 320 base for the shuttle (BOS for now, but the GSA contract should be up for recompete putting DCA in play for mainline). Anyway, the smallest base left for the 320's is MEM and they would just have to MD them and viola NYC 320 base.
So bottom line, sometime in the next year they'll close MEM as a pilot base and then finish off the folks in CVG.
I hope I'm wrong.
06-14-2011, 09:25 AM
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Trying to remove the competition? The 330's fly to Europe now, and there is no New York base for them. There no reason to think they wouldn't fly to Europe from the ATL once there is a base there. In fact, I would expect some of the better flying will occur there. SEA will handle Asia, and ATL will fight over Europe with DTW. Who do you think is closer to the fleet planner's ear?
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