Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
Usually a day or two but this one might be a bit longer. They've already said in their memo that they are going to massage the numbers on this bid. They will look at the training visits that get generated and decide how much backfilling to do and whether to award all the slots in the new ATL Airbus categories.
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RIP Liberty Belle....
WWII bomber crashes near Aurora, all 7 aboard said to be OK - Chicago Breaking News
WWII bomber crashes near Aurora, all 7 aboard said to be OK
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World War II bomber burns after crashing near Aurora. (WGN-TV)
By Gerry Smith, Cynthia Dizikes and Carlos Sadovi
Tribune reporters
11:01 a.m. CDT, June 13, 2011
A vintage World War II bomber crashed and burned in a field southeast of Aurora Municipal Airport this morning, but the seven people on board escaped without injury, according to aviation officials.
The plane, a B-17 known as a "Flying Fortress," took off from the airport at 9:30 a.m. and went down about three or four miles from Aurora about 20 minutes later, according to Elizabeth Isham Cory, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration. "The plane is burning. We believe the seven people on board escaped without injury."
PHOTO: World War II bomber crashes near Aurora
The pilot made an emergency landing in a cornfield near Highway 71 and Minkler Road in Oswego after reporting an engine fire, according to Sugar Grove Fire Chief Marty Kunkle. Fire Departments from Oswego, Sugar Grove and Plainfield on the scene.
Drew Mundsinger and his son were driving back to their home after dropping off other children at school when they saw the plane flying low overhead. A smaller plane was flying with the B-17.
Mundsinger he knew the plane was in the area providing rides and didn't think much of it. When they came close to their home, they saw large plumes of dark smoke filling the air and at first thought it was someone burning leaves.
Then he and his son realized one of the planes had crashed. By the time he reached his home, he saw the plane burning in a cornfield about 500 yards behind his home.
"When we first came here, it looked like nothing could survive that," Mundsinger said. "It looked to be right by my subdivision so I got worried. The scary thing is, it was heading right at our house.
“It made my heart race up a beat," he added. "I can clearly look straight out at it.”
Gene Sheeley was loading groceries into his car outside a Jewel store when he heard a plane flying overhead. Looking up, Sheeley said he noticed the bomber was gliding extremely low over the intersection of Orchard Road and Illinois Route 71 in Oswego.
“I thought this puppy is flying low, but I didn’t realize it was going to crash,” Sheeley said.
But moments later Sheeley, 72, saw a large plume of black smoke rising into the clear blue sky. “The first thing that came to my mind was did anybody get hurt,” Sheeley said.
The plane was manufactured in 1944 and is registered to the Liberty Foundation in Miami, Fla., Cory said. She believed the plane was the "Liberty Belle," which has been restored by the foundation. The plane was at the Aurora Municipal Airport on Saturday and Sunday, according to the foundation's website.
The "Liberty Belle" was sold on June 25, 1947 as scrap to Esperado Mining Co. of Altus, Okla. and was sold again later that year to Pratt & Whitney for $2,700, according to the foundation's website.
Whitney operated the B-17 from Nov. 19, 1947 to 1967 to test turboprop engines. It was donated in the late 1960s to the Connecticut Aeronautical Historic Association in East Hartford, but was heavily damaged in 1979 when a tornado threw another aircraft against the B-17’s mid-section, breaking the fuselage, the foundation said.
It was stored in the New England Air Museum in Connecticut until the foundation began restoring it.
WWII bomber crashes near Aurora, all 7 aboard said to be OK - Chicago Breaking News
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World War II bomber burns after crashing near Aurora. (WGN-TV)
By Gerry Smith, Cynthia Dizikes and Carlos Sadovi
Tribune reporters
11:01 a.m. CDT, June 13, 2011
A vintage World War II bomber crashed and burned in a field southeast of Aurora Municipal Airport this morning, but the seven people on board escaped without injury, according to aviation officials.
The plane, a B-17 known as a "Flying Fortress," took off from the airport at 9:30 a.m. and went down about three or four miles from Aurora about 20 minutes later, according to Elizabeth Isham Cory, a spokeswoman for the Federal Aviation Administration. "The plane is burning. We believe the seven people on board escaped without injury."
PHOTO: World War II bomber crashes near Aurora
The pilot made an emergency landing in a cornfield near Highway 71 and Minkler Road in Oswego after reporting an engine fire, according to Sugar Grove Fire Chief Marty Kunkle. Fire Departments from Oswego, Sugar Grove and Plainfield on the scene.
Drew Mundsinger and his son were driving back to their home after dropping off other children at school when they saw the plane flying low overhead. A smaller plane was flying with the B-17.
Mundsinger he knew the plane was in the area providing rides and didn't think much of it. When they came close to their home, they saw large plumes of dark smoke filling the air and at first thought it was someone burning leaves.
Then he and his son realized one of the planes had crashed. By the time he reached his home, he saw the plane burning in a cornfield about 500 yards behind his home.
"When we first came here, it looked like nothing could survive that," Mundsinger said. "It looked to be right by my subdivision so I got worried. The scary thing is, it was heading right at our house.
“It made my heart race up a beat," he added. "I can clearly look straight out at it.”
Gene Sheeley was loading groceries into his car outside a Jewel store when he heard a plane flying overhead. Looking up, Sheeley said he noticed the bomber was gliding extremely low over the intersection of Orchard Road and Illinois Route 71 in Oswego.
“I thought this puppy is flying low, but I didn’t realize it was going to crash,” Sheeley said.
But moments later Sheeley, 72, saw a large plume of black smoke rising into the clear blue sky. “The first thing that came to my mind was did anybody get hurt,” Sheeley said.
The plane was manufactured in 1944 and is registered to the Liberty Foundation in Miami, Fla., Cory said. She believed the plane was the "Liberty Belle," which has been restored by the foundation. The plane was at the Aurora Municipal Airport on Saturday and Sunday, according to the foundation's website.
The "Liberty Belle" was sold on June 25, 1947 as scrap to Esperado Mining Co. of Altus, Okla. and was sold again later that year to Pratt & Whitney for $2,700, according to the foundation's website.
Whitney operated the B-17 from Nov. 19, 1947 to 1967 to test turboprop engines. It was donated in the late 1960s to the Connecticut Aeronautical Historic Association in East Hartford, but was heavily damaged in 1979 when a tornado threw another aircraft against the B-17’s mid-section, breaking the fuselage, the foundation said.
It was stored in the New England Air Museum in Connecticut until the foundation began restoring it.
Yes...but...international categories have 24 hr long short calls though. It is OK if you live in base...otherwise you can get screwed. For example, they assign Monday 6:00 AM to Tuesday 6:00 short call. (now thats two hotel rooms...you made it to your base Sunday night to be in position early morning on Monday). It gets even worse. They give Tuesday off for rest and then assign a 24 hr short call window on Wednesday again. Now...you can't get home on Tuesday (if you're a commuter) because you have to be in position by 6:00 AM (8:00AM latest) on Wedneday for the short call. So...you do 2 short calls and eat 5 hotel rooms ....and add all the time spent away from home. I'm trying to get out of my seat lock and get displaced to a domestic category on this AE! In the meantime...time to get a dang crash pad...I thought I was done with it
Wow.. you sit reserve in another city and buy hotel rooms? You must be in downtown Detroit then.. In NY, there is absolutely no cotton pickin way you could sit reserve without a crashpad. If you can, you probably aren't complaining about our pay....
Hey... that was post #68000.....
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Looks like ATL 330 will do CDG:
Winter Schedule is back up to twice daily DAL service
DL028 ATL CDG 767
AF681 ATL CDG 777
DL022 ATL CDG 333
AF682 CDG ATL 777
DL021 CDG ATL 333
DL029 CDG ATL 767
Cheers
George
Winter Schedule is back up to twice daily DAL service
DL028 ATL CDG 767
AF681 ATL CDG 777
DL022 ATL CDG 333
AF682 CDG ATL 777
DL021 CDG ATL 333
DL029 CDG ATL 767
Cheers
George
And it can go on for years.
6 out of 10 men say brains more important than looks.
So only 4 out of 10 men are honest.
Hey you have to have chemistry, but if there is no relationship then chemistry will end probably within 6 months of marriage then the "chemistry chemistry" will end only to revived by the notion of "let's have a baby, it'll bring us together" and man says "that requires sex! yes! Wait? You're pregnant? You think you're sick? No sex? What?"... back to square 1 but this time with a baby.
You got to feel bad for the baby.
So only 4 out of 10 men are honest.
Hey you have to have chemistry, but if there is no relationship then chemistry will end probably within 6 months of marriage then the "chemistry chemistry" will end only to revived by the notion of "let's have a baby, it'll bring us together" and man says "that requires sex! yes! Wait? You're pregnant? You think you're sick? No sex? What?"... back to square 1 but this time with a baby.
You got to feel bad for the baby.
6 out of 10 men say brains more important than looks.
So only 4 out of 10 men are honest.
Hey you have to have chemistry, but if there is no relationship then chemistry will end probably within 6 months of marriage then the "chemistry chemistry" will end only to revived by the notion of "let's have a baby, it'll bring us together" and man says "that requires sex! yes! Wait? You're pregnant? You think you're sick? No sex? What?"... back to square 1 but this time with a baby.
You got to feel bad for the baby.
So only 4 out of 10 men are honest.
Hey you have to have chemistry, but if there is no relationship then chemistry will end probably within 6 months of marriage then the "chemistry chemistry" will end only to revived by the notion of "let's have a baby, it'll bring us together" and man says "that requires sex! yes! Wait? You're pregnant? You think you're sick? No sex? What?"... back to square 1 but this time with a baby.
You got to feel bad for the baby.
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