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Old 06-10-2011, 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
I do not see anything in the contract allowing you to bid a new category when you have a seat lock. You can only swap bases in the same category or bid a capt position.
Because you didn't look in the correct section...It's in the definitions:

“Category freeze” means a period of time
a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training
is required.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:37 AM
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Question:

For those awarded the 320 on this next bid, will training be conducted up in MSP, or down in Atlanta? If it's in Atlanta, is there still going to be a ground school and essentially the same syllabus as in MSP, or is it going to be training by CD?
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:40 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueMoon
I have no idea what you mean.

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Old 06-10-2011, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
I do not see anything in the contract allowing you to bid a new category when you have a seat lock. You can only swap bases in the same category or bid a capt position.
Look at PWA 22 A 8. It is right there.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by DALMD88FO
Because you didn't look in the correct section...It's in the definitions:

“Category freeze” means a period of time
a. that is determined under Section 22 G.,
b. that commences on the date of a pilot’s award of an AE or VD for which qualification training is required, and
c. during which the pilot will (unless declared eligible by the Company) be ineligible to be awarded another AE with an earliest conversion date falling within the freeze period (other than to a new or reestablished category) for which qualification training
is required.

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Old 06-10-2011, 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by fishguy79
Hence the change. We are getting close to contract 2012. If they can make the ATL pilots happy, they will carry the companies water with the yes vote. With 34.6 percent of the pilots based in ATL, do not have to buy off too many more to pass a weak contract

Not saying it will happen, but it sure looks like the plan.
Simply adding a little flying to a base doesn't come remotely close to passing out enough kool aid to swing the entier base no matter what else they throw at the total group. ATL is the biggest hub of the biggest airline in the galaxy, and as such its going to have some flying based there. I doubt too many ATL pilots will rubber stamp a bad contract, that they would have otherwise rejected, because a cool new plane is based there and over all flying is up a tad.

Actually, the more ATL pilots we have, the harder a sell it will be to claim that we can't financially swing SWA narrowbody pay, 15 days off reserve and 100% scope (there on occasion have been more than a few outsourced jets sighted at once in ATL).
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:45 AM
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Are there any SEA 330 Bs on here?

How many of the local guys bid reserve lines by choice? Is a 70% qualifier good enough to say off reserve there?

I'd be at 67ish % there today, but who knows what the MSP guys will do. I agree that most of the Bs will bid over to DTW......maybe........
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:47 AM
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Question for you scheduling gurus. I just put in some WS for June and was awarded one for the end of the month that spills into July. I picked up 2 back to back 3 days taking me into July so I will have a 30 in 7 problem to fly on the 3rd.

So knowing that I am on the bubble to hold the 4th off can I use this to my advantage. Can I bid for trips that operate over those days I am flying or the 30 in 7 issue days.

I have tried in the past to pick up trips during the bidding window and have been denied. When does the company take a snap shot of your schedule for use with PBS?
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Whidbey
Question:

For those awarded the 320 on this next bid, will training be conducted up in MSP, or down in Atlanta? If it's in Atlanta, is there still going to be a ground school and essentially the same syllabus as in MSP, or is it going to be training by CD?

Training will still be in MSP. I believe the A320 is switching to the new model of training in October in which I believes systems will be via EQual.
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:57 AM
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[QUOTE=caddis;1006321]Question for you scheduling gurus. I just put in some WS for June and was awarded one for the end of the month that spills into July. I picked up 2 back to back 3 days taking me into July so I will have a 30 in 7 problem to fly on the 3rd.

So knowing that I am on the bubble to hold the 4th off can I use this to my advantage. Can I bid for trips that operate over those days I am flying or the 30 in 7 issue days.

I have tried in the past to pick up trips during the bidding window and have been denied. When does the company take a snap shot of your schedule for use with PBS?[/QUOTE]

When bids close on the 12th, PBS looks at your schedule.
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