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Old 06-10-2011, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DLpilot
I don't think the scenario would be possible. The VD uses the seniority number of the guy that you are volunteering to be displaced for. He would have to be able to hold the 320. You would hold the 320 on the AE before you could hold it on the VD.
Oh ok I didn't realize that. But let's say I could hold it seniority wise(using the person who would be displaced), but not unless I bumped someone jr. You can't bump someone JR on an AE, but you can on a VD, right?
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
I'm just amazed by the amount of overreaction that goes on, partly due to an over-saturation of media. I totally get why these guys are upset, and why they feel that they should not be charge, wholeheartedly I agree with them. I don't necessarily agree with the way they went about it, but even that is not the issue.
I'm just floored at how everyone and their mother is out to demonize DAL, or any airline with a similar policy, and it's ironic to see politicians jumping on the bandwagon now as well. It just disgusts me to see certain Politicians slug their way into the limelight trying to capitalize their own agenda on the back of a minor news event.

When DAL is wrong I'll come out and say it, but I think people need to lighten up and move on from this.
Agreed-I've seen multiple friends on FB declare how they are not only boycotting delta, but also making it a point to tell everyone they can to do the same. Of course what comes up is the American Airlines commercial in the terminal thanking soldiers coming home. "See, American gets it." Unreal.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Eric Stratton
Yes Grandpa, really.... That's good because you would lose.
Hey Cliff, what color is the sky in your world? But by all means, look at the glass half empty, I am sure it does your heart good. and BTW.. bless your heart....
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Hey Cliff, what color is the sky in your world? But by all means, look at the glass half empty, I am sure it does your heart good. and BTW.. bless your heart....
Bless your heart T-square....The Delta way.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
Let's say I bid 320, then ER on both my AE and VD bids. Now let's say I could hypothetically hold the ER on the Ae but the 320 on the VD, which one would I get?
What base and are you seat locked?

If seat locked: You will be able to bid a Capt. position or a new category regardless of lock. Or, You can take a VD to any position the person you are protecting can hold UNLESS it is an OPEN position in which case you will be awarded it based on your own seniority.(ie. new category or vacancy)

If not seat locked: You will be awarded your AE first before your VD.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
Oh ok I didn't realize that. But let's say I could hold it seniority wise(using the person who would be displaced), but not unless I bumped someone jr. You can't bump someone JR on an AE, but you can on a VD, right?
Wait, I was going by the ATL 320 where there was no one already in the category. Your last part is correct. I am still learning too. Just bid for what you want is the main thing.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Brocc15
Oh ok I didn't realize that. But let's say I could hold it seniority wise(using the person who would be displaced), but not unless I bumped someone jr. You can't bump someone JR on an AE, but you can on a VD, right?

Keep in mind that when you VD, you use that person's seniority that you saved from getting displaced for displacing into a category, not yours.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by 1234
Keep in mind that when you VD, you use that person's seniority that you saved from getting displaced for displacing into a category, not yours.
... and you get frozen...
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Adolphus Coors
What base and are you seat locked?

If seat locked: You will be able to bid a Capt. position or a new category regardless of lock. Or, You can take a VD to any position the person you are protecting can hold UNLESS it is an OPEN position in which case you will be awarded it based on your own seniority.(ie. new category or vacancy)

If not seat locked: You will be awarded your AE first before your VD.
I do not see anything in the contract allowing you to bid a new category when you have a seat lock. You can only swap bases in the same category or bid a capt position.
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dragon
15 minutes of fame - enough said. BZ to them for serving our country.

BTW O'Reilly had a good analysis this morning on F&F. He said, this is what you get when you don't pay your employees enough (DAL) and then take away whatever power they might have to make a good decision at their level.
And 88 Driver goes wild with applause!!!!

I'm picturing one of those Frank Luntz graphs that shows the lines going up when his focus group dials up their dial thingy's. I think I just broke mine dialing it up off the chart!
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