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Old 06-08-2011, 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Going2Baja
GOD I hope you're correct. We really need to see some movement. Anyone have the #'s on how many we have on property over 60 now? Would be incredible to see a few thousand head out the door.

Baja.
Definitely not a "few thousand" retiring.

Could be a few hundred though. Maybe even "several" hundred? We'll see.

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Old 06-08-2011, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Well that sure seemed to "get it done" when the DPA thread got moved. A couple of the usual ALPA apologists raised the point that it should be in Union Talk... and voila... instantly moved! Then yesterday, a brand new thread about DPA was almost immediately moved to Union Talk... while the ALPA/JetBlue thread remained untouched.



Noted. Hopefully that process will also hold true for any threads with "union talk" advocating ALPA.


...and you ask for the jet blue thread to be moved and "VOILA" instantly moved. The jet blue thread was on here for what...a week or two? How long was the DPA thread on here? At least a month or two before it was moved. It only got moved because it started to look like a childish flightinfo or dalpa forum thread.

Being angry and yelling on a web board is no way to get support. Using the tools provided, flagging posts, notes to mods, is the way to get things done here. The mods are line pilots with schedules and family's. Maybe and email to a mod would have been more appropriate. You unfortunately sound like your arch nemesis on the dalpa forum when you start telling people they need better reading comprehension.

I do agree with you on a lot of topics. Just not your chosen delivery of the message. Keep up the pressure on Dalpa though. They need the input.


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Old 06-08-2011, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
FWIW, DAL has already changed their baggage policy for Military to four pieces that will be free of charge.
Smart move, lets not nickle and dime the troops.

That said, You gotta love the headlines:

Soldiers' pay $2,800 in bag fees
Let's see:
  • 34 guys traveling
  • 20 guys read the DAL policy and take 3 bags
  • 14 don't, have 4 bags and end up paying $200/each, but will be reimbursed by Uncle Sam.

Hmmm

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Old 06-08-2011, 10:15 AM
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Re: Early Out

I talked to one guy with a frozen pension.
He was 59 and a new M88A; here's how he broke it down:

Every month past age 60 he works half of the month for free because that's what the pension would cover.

Had he not gotten divorced, he would have retired at 60. But with his wife getting half of the frozen pension it works out to only 1/4 of the month working for free...

Obviously on larger equipment the math would be different.

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Old 06-08-2011, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I know a lot of pilots that want in to ATL that cannot get in on the jet they want. Moving a large WB would allow these guys to VD or MD in to the jets of their choice.

Simply put, 330 moves here, 330 MSP guys MD's down to the ER, senior ER guy VD's to the ER or 765 in ATL where they previously could not have bid in to that position.
Ouch, and viola' Atlanta gets super senior. Smart folks will bid percentages on this next AE.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by hoserpilot
...and you ask for the jet blue thread to be moved and "VOILA" instantly moved.
Wrong. I asked for it to be moved a week ago immediately after the DPA thread was moved. Since the DPA thread was apparently moved due to a couple of posts that requested it, and the moderators seem to keep pretty close tabs on this forum, I thought I could make my point without having to flag anything or send private messages. I have no doubt that my posts were noticed by a moderator(s). They were just blowing it off.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot
The jet blue thread was on here for what...a week or two? How long was the DPA thread on here? At least a month or two before it was moved. It only got moved because it started to look like a childish flightinfo or dalpa forum thread.
Well, I think that's debatable. From what I saw, the content and tone of the DPA thread did not change substantially from its beginning all the way through to the point where it was moved... and it was not substantially different from the content and tone of the ALPA/JetBlue thread. BTW, the ALPA/JetBlue thread has been going on for a full month.

Originally Posted by hoserpilot
Being angry and yelling on a web board is no way to get support. Using the tools provided, flagging posts, notes to mods, is the way to get things done here. The mods are line pilots with schedules and family's. Maybe and email to a mod would have been more appropriate. You unfortunately sound like your arch nemesis on the dalpa forum when you start telling people they need better reading comprehension.

I do agree with you on a lot of topics. Just not your chosen delivery of the message. Keep up the pressure on Dalpa though. They need the input.


Respectfully,

Hoserpilot
Well, there are times when anger is appropriate. I would challenge you to look at all my posts and tell me how many of them are "angry and yelling" versus how many of them are rational arguments. You will find a very small percentage in the "angry and yelling" category.

And, no, I'm not perfect. But I think I have treated people with respect a lot more than I have gotten in return.

As far as keeping the pressure on DALPA... well that seems to be a lost cause. But I'm not a quitter... so don't worry.

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Old 06-08-2011, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
Ouch, and viola' Atlanta gets super senior. Smart folks will bid percentages on this next AE.

When does the early out close?

Isnt the conventional wisdom that the AE will come out after the early out #s are known?

Hasnt the 330 goes east and the -er goes west been the plan since the first synergistic day?

If the big bus goes to ATL, I think I will slide into it.
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
When does the early out close?

Isnt the conventional wisdom that the AE will come out after the early out #s are known?

Hasnt the 330 goes east and the -er goes west been the plan since the first synergistic day?

If the big bus goes to ATL, I think I will slide into it.
French airplanes are SCARY! I recommend everyone stay away from the 330 if it comes to ATL. Hard to land in a crosswind, the control laws do wild unexpected things, sidestick is nearly impossible to master, and the tails fall off at random . . . .

Much safer to stick with the Boeings

I won't hold a snowballs chance in he!! of holding it in ATL, but I can try!
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
If the big bus goes to ATL, I think I will slide into it.
The big bus might be popular with the ER folks that want to just fly Europe and the occasional Africa instead of Fort Lauderdale. The bus does not do much (if any) domestic, does it?
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Old 06-08-2011, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
French airplanes are SCARY! I recommend everyone stay away from the 330 if it comes to ATL. Hard to land in a crosswind, the control laws do wild unexpected things, sidestick is nearly impossible to master, and the tails fall off at random . . . .

Same goes for the 320 if it comes to ATL
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