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Old 06-01-2011, 02:50 PM
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Oh yeah, the new Super 767-Super Extended Range.

Hey that was supposed to go to beer's last funny statement. Yes..I meant 80,000 tons...and that is per side!! We were flying the 767-300EEEEEEEEEER.
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:10 PM
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They better not laugh at us.
We are 3'8" and 85 lbs. of lean mean scope machine. With a hat.

Well you dont need much when the nmb put the RAH STS ball on the t and told the other team to go to their dugout and begged you please just hit the ball!!!!!

Btw, that picture is perfect but I didn't realize it but 3'8" and 85 lbs is A BMI of 31. We're fat little kids! playing tball! willing to sell our and your souls for a milkshake.
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Old 06-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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Paris Air Show starts June 20th. This is when announcements are more likely than not.

However, Delta's own economic team might have figured out early what the rest of the economic World seems to be figuring out today. .. that US GDP growth is less than expected. Typically the overall flying for Delta (us and the other 50%) correlates with national GDP pretty well. The eye popping figure is that Bombardier is getting 737NG money for these jets, $65 million for an early order that Bombardier needed desperately. This is around 20 to 25 million more than a E175 and nearly twice the cost of the CRJ super stretch. While this airplane is supposed to have great economics, that's a pile of capital expense.

Anyway, here's hope to those who would not miss flying a Douglas jet.
VANCOUVER/BANGALORE (Reuters) – Bombardier Inc (BBDb.TO) broke a 16-month order drought for its new CSeries jetliner on Wednesday, announcing a small 10-plane deal and hinting that more orders may not be far off.

The world's third biggest civil aircraft maker is also in advanced talks with up to 10 customers on sales of its newest single-aisle commercial aircraft, said Guy Hachey, president and chief operating officer of Bombardier's aerospace unit.

"There are somewhere between seven and 10 customers that are much further along than just talking about general items around the aircraft," Hachey told analysts and reporters on a call to discuss Bombardier's first quarter results.

"We are getting down to negotiating LOIs (letters of intent) and turning out pricing issues, terms and conditions and performance guarantees," he said.

There was also a "second handful" of customers, with whom discussions are "progressing well", he said.

Montreal-based Bombardier has been under pressure for months to announce new orders of its 110- to 145-seater CSeries jet, which is set to enter the market in late-2013 and compete with Boeing Co's (BA.N) 737 and Airbus Industrie's (EAD.PA) A320.

The firm order announced on Wednesday from Sweden's Braathens Aviation could help stir up more interest in the aircraft at this month's Paris air show, a key aviation industry sales event, analysts said.

"We believe there is a good chance of additional orders at the show, which would clearly alleviate some of the concerns investors have had about the potential viability of the CSeries program," said National Bank Financial analyst Cameron Doerksen.

News of the order came on the same day Bombardier released healthy results, showing a 13 percent rise in first-quarter earnings. Both items helped to lift Bombardier's stock as much as 7 percent. It later closed off its highs at C$6.65, up 20 Canadian cents or 3 percent, on the Toronto Stock Exchange.

The Braathens order, which is worth $665 million and includes an option for another 10 CSeries aircraft, brings to 100 the total number of firm orders for the plane.

Braathens is Bombardier's fourth customer for the CSeries. Its firm order is for five smaller CS100 aircraft and five larger CS300 mainline jetliners. If the Swedish firm turns its option for 10 more aircraft into firm orders the deal value will rise to about $1.37 billion.

FORECAST UNCHANGED

Earlier on Wednesday, Bombardier released first-quarter earnings that beat market expectations due to increased aircraft deliveries, notably higher-margin Global Express business jets.

Despite the outperformance, the company left its March margin and delivery forecasts unchanged, raising questions from analysts as to whether the rest of the year would be weaker or if the company would beat its own outlook.

Hachey said he was still comfortable with the guidance and pointed out that the fourth quarter would comprise only two months as Bombardier changes its year-end from end-January to end-December.

Bombardier, which is also the world's largest train maker, reported net profit of $220 million, or 12 cents a share. That was ahead of analyst expectations of 10 cents a share as the market for business jets revived after a slump in 2009 because of the recession.

A year ago the Montreal-based company reported earnings of $195 million, or 11 cents a share.

Revenue rose 9 percent to $4.66 billion.

"I think it was a good quarter. We continue to see supportive trends and orders in business jets and transportation," said BMO Capital Markets analyst Fadi Chamoun.

"That should continue to drive revenue and margin improvement in the next two years," he said.

The company's overall backlog was $55.1 billion as of April 30, compared with $52.7 billion on January 31.

Revenue at the aerospace division rose 10 percent to $2.2 billion. It received 86 net orders during the quarter, up from 61 in the year-ago period.

Bombardier's aerospace unit got a major lift in March from a massive order of up to 120 business jets from Warren Buffett's NetJets Inc, a deal that could be worth as much as $6.7 billion.

Bombardier executives said they did not see any other deals as large as this on the immediate horizon.

Revenue at the transportation division was up 9 percent at $2.5 billion.

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Old 06-01-2011, 03:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
For all you Mac/Apple users:

New version of malware is now spreading for Macs. Apple finally acknowledged the malware problem. Read article linked for more info.

New Mac Defender malware variant drops admin password requirement
it's not a virus, it's not malware and it in no way harms your computer. it's a phishing scam.

Apple have responded within five days.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:17 PM
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Well in honor of Bars Canadian optimism about c-series jets being flown for delta, and a slight chance by us! Anyways, Canada's best, excluding Canadian bacon, Shania and Kate:



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Old 06-01-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar
However, Delta's own economic team might have figured out early what the rest of the economic World seems to be figuring out today. .. that US GDP growth is less than expected. Typically the overall flying for Delta (us and the other 50%) correlates with national GDP pretty well. The eye popping figure is that Bombardier is getting 737NG money for these jets, $65 million for an early order that Bombardier needed desperately. This is around 20 to 25 million more than a E175 and nearly twice the cost of the CRJ super stretch. While this airplane is supposed to have great economics, that's a pile of capital expense.
BB, great analysis.
Thats exactly why we'll never see the C-series at DAL.

Douglas will once again fit the bill...

Cheers
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Well in honor of Bars Canadian optimism about c-series jets being flown for delta, and a slight chance by us! Anyways, Canada's best, excluding Canadian bacon, Shania and Kate:




Hey!!! Don't forget the Canucks. The puck just dropped. 4 games till the Bruins go golfing.....I hope.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:36 PM
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George is in the choir, the Rev Newk's Fly DC Jets Choir:



It's small but growing:

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Old 06-01-2011, 04:49 PM
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Actually.... the 170's went to the republic certificate because RAH wanted those 170s on the CHQ certificate but could not put them there because that violated AA's scope clause which doesnt allow jet aircraft over 50 seats to be flown by one of their regional partners regardless if they are flown for AA or not....
Actually... the original plan was to have two certificates - Chautauqua and Republic. Bedford could not get the Republic certificate up fast enough so he put United 170's on the Chautauqua operating certificate violating APA's scope. They sued and won a few million per month. Chautauqua then bought Shuttle America (Wexford Holding's owned Shuttle and Chautauqua) for a quick fix to the 170 scope problem. As soon as Shuttle was bought, the 170's were transferred immediately from Chautauqua to Shuttle America. Then Bedford signed a deal with Delta to fly 170's on the Shuttle America certificate. Next Bedford made a deal to buy the Mid Atlantic 170's that were configured to 72 seats. Under Delta's scope these could not be under any operating certificate flying the Delta code so he finished creating the Republic certificate and put them there. This all happened in less than four years. It truly is one airline with one pilot group and one CEO using 4 different operating certificates for the sole purpose of scope dodging.
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Old 06-01-2011, 04:56 PM
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EVERYBODY STOP!!!!!


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