Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-23-2009, 09:07 AM
#6631
Happy to be here
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All in the art of negotiation.
04-23-2009, 09:09 AM
#6632
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Position: 320B
Posts: 511
Now for your halftime entertainment...... Goooooo Gators!!!!!!
04-23-2009, 09:35 AM
#6633
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
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Interesting Flight Ops 411 PodCast this week with the Director of Schedule Development.
Delta has been a hub to point airline and NWA has been a Hub to Hub operation. As scheduled capacity gets pulled down, a lot of it will be parking airplanes during the week (business flying) and doing more flying on the weekends, Saturday specifically. They do not want to take dots off the map, even if they only fly the route 1X weekly.
757, 767 ER to MSP to backfill the A330
DC9 to ATL to replace RJ's IF FUEL STAYS CHEAP
No viable 100 seat airplane in the market. Not sure there are any new airplanes coming that meet the needs of the airlines in the 100 seat market. For now, the DC9 competes against AirTran better than the RJ.
Expect the NWA fleet to get pushed much harder operationally - longer flights, etc...
Looking at network with a joint venture with AirFrance / KLM.
Schedule development post SOC was a white paper job with NO basis in the current status quo. This is sent to Flight Operations and Flight Ops looks at this from a credit time, efficiency, basing standpoint. It is clear that revenue development drives the decisions.
My opinions ----
While these managers are the gurus, more and more of what I am reading suggests corporate travel budgets are coming back as nothing seals a deal like a handshake (or dinner & drinks) and travel budgets have tendency to spring back. Like buying a new car, you can put it off for a while, but eventually you got to break down and spend some money.
Sounds like the 737 guys are going to be busy, especially on the weekends. They might not want to buy more, but it does most of what a 757 will do and is just the right size. IMHO they like 96% or more of the seats filled and are being very conservative.
Also, management is still playing with the 100 seater. I think IF ALPA ROLLS OVER and they get 90 seats, or 100 seats, management will instantly find a viable 100 seater and use it to roll DCI contractors out of their smaller equipment. Management is waiting for someone to blink. 2012 is our Section 6, about the time the C Series will be on the cover of Aviation Week and many will be observing it burns half the gas of a DC9. Throw in the carbon tax (which will probably be another form of fuel tax) and I see a nice little storm brewing.
Also sounds like ATL will be a Delta base and the DCI carriers will be upsized and while the smaller jets get sent to Siberia, I mean the hinterlands, I mean Detroit and MSP where they will find a lot of the remaining 757's and 767's parked where the A330's and 747's once roamed the ramp.
Passengers like taking the 747 to Hawaii - DUH - who wouldn't? Last time I got my ticket and it said ROW 66 SEAT K, I was like, what is this thing? Other than the fact the seat bottom was busted out, it was a very nice ride.
Delta has been a hub to point airline and NWA has been a Hub to Hub operation. As scheduled capacity gets pulled down, a lot of it will be parking airplanes during the week (business flying) and doing more flying on the weekends, Saturday specifically. They do not want to take dots off the map, even if they only fly the route 1X weekly.
757, 767 ER to MSP to backfill the A330
DC9 to ATL to replace RJ's IF FUEL STAYS CHEAP
No viable 100 seat airplane in the market. Not sure there are any new airplanes coming that meet the needs of the airlines in the 100 seat market. For now, the DC9 competes against AirTran better than the RJ.
Expect the NWA fleet to get pushed much harder operationally - longer flights, etc...
Looking at network with a joint venture with AirFrance / KLM.
Schedule development post SOC was a white paper job with NO basis in the current status quo. This is sent to Flight Operations and Flight Ops looks at this from a credit time, efficiency, basing standpoint. It is clear that revenue development drives the decisions.
My opinions ----
While these managers are the gurus, more and more of what I am reading suggests corporate travel budgets are coming back as nothing seals a deal like a handshake (or dinner & drinks) and travel budgets have tendency to spring back. Like buying a new car, you can put it off for a while, but eventually you got to break down and spend some money.
Sounds like the 737 guys are going to be busy, especially on the weekends. They might not want to buy more, but it does most of what a 757 will do and is just the right size. IMHO they like 96% or more of the seats filled and are being very conservative.
Also, management is still playing with the 100 seater. I think IF ALPA ROLLS OVER and they get 90 seats, or 100 seats, management will instantly find a viable 100 seater and use it to roll DCI contractors out of their smaller equipment. Management is waiting for someone to blink. 2012 is our Section 6, about the time the C Series will be on the cover of Aviation Week and many will be observing it burns half the gas of a DC9. Throw in the carbon tax (which will probably be another form of fuel tax) and I see a nice little storm brewing.
Also sounds like ATL will be a Delta base and the DCI carriers will be upsized and while the smaller jets get sent to Siberia, I mean the hinterlands, I mean Detroit and MSP where they will find a lot of the remaining 757's and 767's parked where the A330's and 747's once roamed the ramp.
Passengers like taking the 747 to Hawaii - DUH - who wouldn't? Last time I got my ticket and it said ROW 66 SEAT K, I was like, what is this thing? Other than the fact the seat bottom was busted out, it was a very nice ride.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 04-23-2009 at 09:50 AM.
04-23-2009, 09:39 AM
#6635
Happy to be here
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Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
Not a surprise Bar.
Like I said a year ago. ER's to MSP!
As for the 100 seat jet. The CS is a good choice and they like it, but it needs to be developed further for them to commit like that.
AF/KLM should scare pilots. AMS NWA base is the front line. I see a lot of those flights being operated by KLM in the next few years.
Like I said a year ago. ER's to MSP!
As for the 100 seat jet. The CS is a good choice and they like it, but it needs to be developed further for them to commit like that.
AF/KLM should scare pilots. AMS NWA base is the front line. I see a lot of those flights being operated by KLM in the next few years.
04-23-2009, 09:49 AM
#6638
On Reserve
Joined APC: Aug 2007
Posts: 11
Not to change the subject. Aren't there some guys on the Delta N list that are over 65? If so, since there will no longer be a seat for them once the 747-200 is gone, would they be eligible for perps? For the company would it not make sense to wait until they are forced out before offering perps? For those of you over 65, I am not a senior citizen hater. My parents are senior citizens and I love them very much.
04-23-2009, 10:02 AM
#6639
Happy to be here
Joined APC: Jun 2006
Position: A-320A
Posts: 18,563
LAX is not bad. Now would be a great time to buy there. We have guys that live right on the ocean that bought in 20 years ago. For some reason they always have a smile on their face.
04-23-2009, 10:02 AM
#6640
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,037
You can roll with us anytime, well anytime except the Sabbath. Walter thinks he's an Irish Catholic Jew by marriage and you will not be senior enough to hold Saturdays off anyway. Just abide.
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