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Old 05-21-2011, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
From the play book of how not to think for yourself and criticize conservatives: When you find yourself unable to regurgitate MSNBC talking points and grasping for straws always know you can go for the "FOX is biased!" card.


Jesse:

I do think for myself and don't use anybody's 'Playbook.' I also consider myself a conservative on many issues... raised in a Republican household, voted for Goldwater, Reagan and Bush #1. The '90's, however brought a growing disappointment with most things political in BOTH parties. The frustration is obvious in the media, and it's Big Busine$$. As Clamp noted, and I agree...most TV 'talent' are idiots. I suspect the brains are in the corner office and are writing the script or whispering in their earpieces how to present the news.

I try to watch different news outlets; BBC when over-seas. I want to avoid getting 'brainwashed' or 'absorbed by the Borg.' When the volume goes up and the ranting starts, I flip the channel.

We all should use our 'inside voice.' I will.


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Originally Posted by scambo1
I agree with you.

However, you have to admit management is trying. Dickson's recent end of week epistle referred to needing a chainsaw to harmonize the operation. I disagree. Delta is trying to fix and manage little pieces when they should be looking at the structural inadequecies of the operation.

As an individual event selling tickets, getting pax to the gate and launching an aircraft is a relatively straightforward operation. Combine that with the ballet or trainwreck that is the size of delta, the trick is to harmonize it all. It is possible, but DAL will not take the necessary steps.

The chief of mx, baggage handlers and gate agents is co-equal to flt ops. Fiefdoms dont play well together like that. There needs to be one chief and beneath that chief, indians.

Six sigma, not management by objective is what needs to be applied...in all areas. The operation could be well and simply run without the crisis de jour management that goes on. For example, you can send me a million emails and letters that tell me how great Attilla is and how it saves the company tons of money. Objectively, I know that is BS.

Our flt ops management team is sooooo much better that what we have had previously and they are moving little pieces in the right direction (due to corporate/ bureaucratic inertia). However, IMO, the whole script needs to be re-written and a good start would be a new corporate wiring diagram.

I agree. I know Delta is trying, and I admire that. However, when they try to do thing with all the different departments and managers fighting each other, it just becomes “who’s fault is that the flight was late” game. Between Inflight. Flight ops, Ramp, and Gate Agents, they all say “we did our thing so it’s not our fault.” The focus should not be that.
I hate to say, but SWA people seem all on the same team whether they are ramp or gate agents, and they all work together to get things done. We need little less infighting in the house, I think.
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Jesse
Looks like someone's impressed by resumes. Guess what, dude could have a Nobel prize on his bookshelf and it doesn't mean he always knows what he's talking about, especially when the orator is inflamed with hate and a good dose of sanctimony.
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You talking about Rush and the FOX 'talent?'
Originally Posted by Jesse
From the play book of how not to think for yourself and criticize conservatives: When you find yourself unable to regurgitate MSNBC talking points and grasping for straws always know you can go for the "FOX is biased!" card.
Originally Posted by DFW Refugee

Jesse:

I do think for myself and don't use anybody's 'Playbook.' I also consider myself a conservative on many issues... raised in a Republican household, voted for Goldwater, Reagan and Bush #1. The '90's, however brought a growing disappointment with most things political in BOTH parties. The frustration is obvious in the media, and it's Big Busine$$. As Clamp noted, and I agree...most TV 'talent' are idiots. I suspect the brains are in the corner office and are writing the script or whispering in their earpieces how to present the news.

I try to watch different news outlets; BBC when over-seas. I want to avoid getting 'brainwashed' or 'absorbed by the Borg.' When the volume goes up and the ranting starts, I flip the channel.

We all should use our 'inside voice.' I will.

What's your definition of 'talent'? Jenna Lee and Meghan Kelly don't impress me a particularly hateful or sanctimonious.

With your breadth of exposure to a wide spectrum of news outlets you should then agree the "FOX News is (fill in the blank with whatever the left is pushing this week)" mantra is typically heard loudest (bold red 5 font?) from those who don't want to hear a viewpoint that varies from their liberal ideology. (e.g. The White House singling them out for scorn for not playing nicely like the other networks.) To me four other networks are just as biased in different ways. But it's much easier for a political ideology group to villainize one network than for another for another to go after four or five. So it's come to be quite a cliche from the left.

Now, had you critiqued FOX on their lack of journalistic professionalism and gaudy presentation qualities I'd be right there with you. I find too many of their shows unbearable to watch for the cheesiness of the personalities.

Agreed on the volume and screaming--OFF the power goes when it gets to that annoyance level. (Note: CNBC producers seem to be the most guilty of encouraging that kind of production.)
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Cleared to push yesterday in ATL and the ramper gives the gate agent the go ahead to pull the jetway back. Only problem: the power is still hooked up to the jet and they pull the receptacle and the receptacle door out of the jet. Ooppss. 3 hours later we depart. So much for D-0.
I'd be curious to see some metrics on accidents like this comparing numbers from the past two months to the same time period a year ago.
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Old 05-21-2011, 09:29 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Cleared to push yesterday in ATL and the ramper gives the gate agent the go ahead to pull the jetway back. Only problem: the power is still hooked up to the jet and they pull the receptacle and the receptacle door out of the jet. Ooppss. 3 hours later we depart. So much for D-0.

Do you know who got 'charged' for the delay (mx, gate...flight crew)?
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Old 05-21-2011, 10:55 PM
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Originally Posted by unit monster
Quick question:
When was the junior 777 Captain hired? FO?
Junior 747 Captain? FO?
The more appropriate question is what is their seniority number. DOH is meaningless.. unless you are worried about your commute.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I agree with you.

However, you have to admit management is trying. Dickson's recent end of week epistle referred to needing a chainsaw to harmonize the operation. I disagree. Delta is trying to fix and manage little pieces when they should be looking at the structural inadequecies of the operation.

As an individual event selling tickets, getting pax to the gate and launching an aircraft is a relatively straightforward operation. Combine that with the ballet or trainwreck that is the size of delta, the trick is to harmonize it all. It is possible, but DAL will not take the necessary steps.

The chief of mx, baggage handlers and gate agents is co-equal to flt ops. Fiefdoms dont play well together like that. There needs to be one chief and beneath that chief, indians.

Six sigma, not management by objective is what needs to be applied...in all areas. The operation could be well and simply run without the crisis de jour management that goes on. For example, you can send me a million emails and letters that tell me how great Attilla is and how it saves the company tons of money. Objectively, I know that is BS.

Our flt ops management team is sooooo much better that what we have had previously and they are moving little pieces in the right direction (due to corporate/ bureaucratic inertia). However, IMO, the whole script needs to be re-written and a good start would be a new corporate wiring diagram.
Quite true. Just think of the changes that would happen if IFS, and ACS were under Flight Operations!
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
I posted this in the DPA thread, but this also goes here: Anyone notice the complete lack of mention of RAH in the C44 release of MEC meeting happenings?
Well call your reps. They will tell you.

It is not a "dead" issue, and from what I gather, not matter what the outcome is given the current language, it is an issue that is a priority.

Oh and on all of these surveys, if you put pay above scope, you will get what you ask for.
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Old 05-22-2011, 01:12 AM
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Not again...... (80 Could this be the start of the Rapture? )

Iceland's Most Active Volcano Erupts


REYKJAVIK, Iceland -- Iceland's most active volcano has started erupting, scientists said Saturday -- just over a year after another eruption on the North Atlantic island shut down European air traffic for days.

Iceland's Meteorological Office confirmed that an eruption had begun at the Grimsvotn volcano, accompanied by a series of small earthquakes. Smoke could be seen rising from the volcano, which lies under the uninhabited Vatnajokull glacier in southeast Iceland.

A no fly zone has been designated for 120 nautical miles in all directions from the eruption. Isavia, the company that operates and develops all airport facilities and air navigation services in Iceland, described this as standard procedure around eruptions.

"The plume of smoke has reached jet flying altitude and plans have been made for planes flying through Icelandic air control space to fly southwardly tonight," said Hjordis Gudmundsdottir, the spokeswoman for Isavia.

Grimsvotn last erupted in 2004. Scientists have been expecting a new eruption and have said previously that this volcano's eruption will likely be small and should not lead to the air travel chaos caused in April 2010 by ash from the Eyjafjallajokull volcano.

History shows that previous eruptions in Grimsvotn have not had much influence on flight traffic -- unlike the massive disruption caused last year.

Pall Einarsson, geophysicist at the University of Iceland, said last year's eruption was a rare event.

"The ash in Eyjafjallajokull was persistent or unremitting and fine-grained," Einarsson said. "The ash in Grimsvotn is more coarse and not as likely to cause danger as it falls to the ground faster and doesn't stay as long in the air as in the Eyjafjallajokull eruption."

A plane from the Icelandic Coast Guard carrying experts from the University of Iceland will fly over the volcano and evaluate the situation.

One eyewitness, Bolli Valgardsson, said the plume rose quickly several thousand feet into the air.

Sparsely populated Iceland is one of the world's most volcanically active countries and eruptions are frequent.

Eruptions often cause local flooding from melting glacier ice, but rarely cause deaths.

Last year's Eyjafjallajokul eruption left some 10 million air travelers stranded worldwide after winds pushed the ash cloud toward some of the world's busiest airspace and led most northern European countries to ground all planes for five days.

Whether widespread disruption occurs again will depend on how long the eruption lasts, how high the ash plume rises and which way the wind blows.

In November, melted glacial ice began pouring from Grimsvotn, signaling a possible eruption. That was a false alarm but scientists have been monitoring the volcano closely ever since.

The volcano also erupted in 1998, 1996 and 1993. The eruptions have lasted between a day and several weeks.
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"...A plane from the Icelandic Coast Guard carrying experts from the University of Iceland will fly over the volcano and evaluate the situation..."

Good luck!
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