Amish Pilot

Thanks ronnie,

Can you point me to where I can find the details, like sufficent reserve coverage.

Scoop

Denny,

The B-Scale was bogus and was thrust upon the junior guys by the more senior pilots - a total hose-job for sure. But you can look at our projected career's today and come to the conclusion that it will be a
De facto B-scale.

Post BK pay has senior and junior Pilot alike on B-scale type wages, and junior guys get to see a lot of potential movement outsourced to our DCI partners adding further insult to injury.

Scoop

80ktsClamp

To his credit, the bus does wiggle a lot more than the 737 or 757. I always assumed it had to do with some sort of relaxed stability to save more fuel.

LeineLodge

If you go to your time card in iCrew you will see down at the bottom something like "APD available for use: Y (or N)"

This means you haven't used your ONE Authorized drop for this employment year. As someone else mentioned PD's are unlimited, but must have adequate reserve coverage for every day that you want to drop.

To check reserve coverage in iCrew:

Go to Open Time
Click on the bottom option; I think it's Reserve Availability or something like that

If the day is Blue, then you have adequate coverage and the drop should go through. If the required vs. available is even close you still may get it, due to the PCS churn of each run. PCS runs 2 iterations each time it runs to allow for your request to be processed to the max extent possible. For example, you want the 20th off and the coverage is currently -1. 2 more pilots want the 22nd off and they are willing to trade the 20th to get it. After the first iteration of PCS these pilots may be awarded their swap and now your day is +1 for coverage. Voila, you have the 20th off during the 2nd iteration of the same PCS run.

From personal experience I would say you want to get your most important reserve day swaps/drops in for the first PCS run of the month. I believe the 0700 run on the 20th of every month. This way you have given yourself the best chance of getting it approved.

There are many other requirements such as min days on, max off blocks, etc that play into this. If your request is not approved, you can check the status of it, via the PCS link in iCrew and it will give you a reason (albeit sometimes cryptic) as to why the trade wasn't approved.

Also, I don't know if someone mentioned it yet or not, but your ONE APD only requires 25% of the required coverage to be approved - holidays listed in the PWA are the exception.

johnso29

Once again, you bring up something that is completely irrelevant to the argument. Pension retention & dissolvement was something determined ar each individual airline in their respective BK trials. A post BK new hire @ DAL or NWA had zero to do with the BK, yet a PMDL makes more then a PMNW. Worse, a newhire makes more then a PMNW post 06 hire.

johnso29

I agree. Fifi does woofer-dill a lot more the fluff & 757.

forgot to bid

The DC-9 doesn't wiggle.

nwaf16dude

Good point, we have outsourced what should be the first Captain job for those of hired in the late 90's/Early 2000's. I'm personally looking at being here in excess of 17 years before I can be a bottom reserve Capt on our smallest mainline equipment in the most junior base. I might not be on B scale, but I bet my 17 years of FO pay will be significantly less than 17 years of pay for the average guy hired at the start of the B scale.

Denny Crane

Scoop,

I won't argue with anything you say above. I was just making the point that there are a lot of guys (1000's actually) at similar points in their careers as these guys are now that lost way more due to the B Scale. I wish it were different but it's not.

Yes, we are all definitely on a defacto B-scale now. Hopefully that will change with our next contract.

Denny

80ktsClamp

It instead causes the earth to tremble from the "sound of freedom."