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Old 05-09-2011, 07:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
One more rumor that I heard on this trip from just one mechanic in MSP. He said that they were told that we are keeping the DC9's indefinitely and that we're parking those recently purchased md-90's in Mirana for the foreseeable future. He said that they have been told to resume "preventive maintenance" on the 9's and those 6 being parked in the fall will get their heavy checks.

I know it's just one mechanic talking (and he was missing a front tooth), but I was curious if anyone else has heard something similar and if this is credible. Doesn't make since that we would purchase a bunch efficient md90's and put them in the desert just because we don't want to do the interior mod's at this time.

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If they are they better stop taking all of the deliveries from China. Had about four over the last six weeks come over.

If they are parking em, it is to put the glass mods in them, and or take out the galley mod!
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Originally Posted by Ed Harley
One more rumor that I heard on this trip from just one mechanic in MSP. He said that they were told that we are keeping the DC9's indefinitely and that we're parking those recently purchased md-90's in Mirana for the foreseeable future. He said that they have been told to resume "preventive maintenance" on the 9's and those 6 being parked in the fall will get their heavy checks.

I know it's just one mechanic talking (and he was missing a front tooth), but I was curious if anyone else has heard something similar and if this is credible. Doesn't make since that we would purchase a bunch efficient md90's and put them in the desert just because we don't want to do the interior mod's at this time.

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Latest rumor I heard was; if a A320 base comes to ATL they will need to hire 600. Came from the CPO.
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Latest rumor I heard was; if a A320 base comes to ATL they will need to hire 600. Came from the CPO.
Yeah, that would make sense
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
Latest rumor I heard was; if a A320 base comes to ATL they will need to hire 600. Came from the CPO.
Maybe they meant "an A320 base was coming to ATL", AND "we are going to hire 600"!! (A man can dream can't he?)

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Old 05-09-2011, 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Ed,
If they are they better stop taking all of the deliveries from China. Had about four over the last six weeks come over.

If they are parking em, it is to put the glass mods in them, and or take out the galley mod!
Don't forget, CAPEX, is CAPEX. The acquisition of the MD90's was only about half the expense of getting them into service. They are much larger units of capacity at a time when we are pulling down capacity. We need to keep revenue per seat mile UP, not only for our bottom line, but to improve market perceptions of our network's pricing power. Replacing DC9's with 50% more capacity in markets will result in RASM reductions as we cut prices to fill seats.

We need something in the sweet spot of 100 to 130 pax with a 100 seat cost footprint. The E175 is a lot closer to meeting that need than an MD90, with the added benefit of outsourcing the CAPEX off our balance sheet. Wall St. seems to think anything outsourced is cheaper, regardless of whether it is true or not. (one unused resource available to ALPA is running and publishing our own analysis of the costs of outsourced flying and changing perceptions that we're just too darned expensive to perform the work we perform)

Hence the reason they keep saying "we hate RJ's" but keep signing contracts for more of the "RJ's" that offer mainline type amenities.
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Originally Posted by Rogue24
Latest rumor I heard was; if a A320 base comes to ATL they will need to hire 600. Came from the CPO.


step away from the crack pipe..........
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Maybe they meant "an A320 base was coming to ATL", AND "we are going to hire 600"!! (A man can dream can't he?)

Fly safe,

GJ
You have to ask if we do put a 320 base in ATL, what are we pulling out? There is only so much we can put in a capacity constrained airport and expect to have any kind of sked integrity. That would be great to hire more, maybe for the rest rules.
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Don't forget, CAPEX, is CAPEX. The acquisition of the MD90's was only about half the expense of getting them into service. They are much larger units of capacity at a time when we are pulling down capacity.
Also need to factor in range considerations. What if the 90s are to be doing MSP-west coast flying? Big difference in capabilities aside from capacity.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
Maybe they meant "an A320 base was coming to ATL", AND "we are going to hire 600"!! (A man can dream can't he?)

Fly safe,

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That was not how it was presents, but if a good amount of pilots take the Early Out, then yes, we may hire with no base moves.

I know of at least three Whale Capt's that are in their mid 60's that are bailing.
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:35 AM
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You have to ask if we do put a 320 base in ATL, what are we pulling out?
RJ's for starters. Possibly some 737's to Detroit.
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