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05-03-2011, 08:00 PM
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On a totally different topic, but the 10 year mark is nearing for furloughed pilots to return to mother DAL. Any guess as to how many of the 243 that are still on bypass will actually return. This could have a big impact as to when we may actually hire off the street again.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
05-04-2011, 02:28 AM
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05-04-2011, 03:01 AM
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05-04-2011, 03:12 AM
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For a pilot to get 130 hours with three weeks of vacation, they would have to work 10 days (assuming a 31 day month) and that carry over trip must be worth a minimum of 6.7 average daily credit since our vacation is only worth a measly 3 hrs per day (another thing that needs to be fixed, no reason it shouldn't be worth a min day of 5:15). I can't believe that there are that many trips which meet this criteria.
Also, regarding this carryover issue and it relating to wide-bodies:
1. What is the problem?
2. How many pilots does this really impact?
3. What is the solution?
Also, regarding this carryover issue and it relating to wide-bodies:
1. What is the problem?
2. How many pilots does this really impact?
3. What is the solution?
05-04-2011, 04:09 AM
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Not sure if ya'll have heard about the helicopters that were used in the insert/extraction of the SEALs in the operation to kill Osama...
They wrecked one of them, and instead of leaving the carcass in place like usual, they blew it up. Why? This is a picture of a portion of the wreckage left after the blast:
I certainly don't recognize that as a part of any helo that I know of... May very well be unacknowledged technology. Pretty cool!
They wrecked one of them, and instead of leaving the carcass in place like usual, they blew it up. Why? This is a picture of a portion of the wreckage left after the blast:
I certainly don't recognize that as a part of any helo that I know of... May very well be unacknowledged technology. Pretty cool!
05-04-2011, 04:12 AM
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Prior to the merger this was not possible to do because the longest trips were 6 days with 5 days of max carry in credit.
Now with 12 day long trips guys can carry in a full month of credit AND get paid 2 weeks of vacation.
They are flying a full month and getting paid their vacation at the same time.
If you sold your vacation back, at the end of the year your credit paid would be approximately the same as this.
Not everybody can do this carry in + vacation pay thing.
You must be senion enough to bid vacations in the second half of a bid period and have long trips in your catagory.
I'm not for or against this and it is legal under our contract.
This is just an unforseen result of the merger.
Now with 12 day long trips guys can carry in a full month of credit AND get paid 2 weeks of vacation.
They are flying a full month and getting paid their vacation at the same time.
If you sold your vacation back, at the end of the year your credit paid would be approximately the same as this.
Not everybody can do this carry in + vacation pay thing.
You must be senion enough to bid vacations in the second half of a bid period and have long trips in your catagory.
I'm not for or against this and it is legal under our contract.
This is just an unforseen result of the merger.
05-04-2011, 04:34 AM
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05-04-2011, 04:34 AM
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Prior to the merger this was not possible to do because the longest trips were 6 days with 5 days of max carry in credit.
Now with 12 day long trips guys can carry in a full month of credit AND get paid 2 weeks of vacation.
They are flying a full month and getting paid their vacation at the same time.
If you sold your vacation back, at the end of the year your credit paid would be approximately the same as this.
Not everybody can do this carry in + vacation pay thing.
You must be senion enough to bid vacations in the second half of a bid period and have long trips in your catagory.
I'm not for or against this and it is legal under our contract.
This is just an unforseen result of the merger.
Now with 12 day long trips guys can carry in a full month of credit AND get paid 2 weeks of vacation.
They are flying a full month and getting paid their vacation at the same time.
If you sold your vacation back, at the end of the year your credit paid would be approximately the same as this.
Not everybody can do this carry in + vacation pay thing.
You must be senion enough to bid vacations in the second half of a bid period and have long trips in your catagory.
I'm not for or against this and it is legal under our contract.
This is just an unforseen result of the merger.
I flew many trips from 9 to 13 days long prior to the merger. They are not something new since the merger. They have always been around depending on what category you are in. I really miss the Capetown layover which was perhaps the best layover in the entire system. Sadly you had to layover twice in Dakar to get one CPT layover.
05-04-2011, 05:16 AM
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They process move ups on the 5th (bids close on the 1st). I have been told as well that moving your primary trumps someone moving their secondary (or lower).
From page 7-4:
b. Vacation move-ups will be awarded in seniority order with the following priority:
1) Pilots requesting to change a primary vacation.
2) Pilots requesting to change a secondary vacation.
3) Pilots requesting to change a tertiary vacation.
4) Pilots requesting to change a quaternary vacation.
From page 7-4:
b. Vacation move-ups will be awarded in seniority order with the following priority:
1) Pilots requesting to change a primary vacation.
2) Pilots requesting to change a secondary vacation.
3) Pilots requesting to change a tertiary vacation.
4) Pilots requesting to change a quaternary vacation.
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