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Old 05-02-2011, 01:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
A reserve pilot would not get this trip regardless. If nobody picks up that "crap trip that nobody wants" then the pilot who was originally assigned that trip is still on the hook to fly that trip.
Not true - he could have it on the Swap board as a courtesy so others could go above the ALV+15 limit. Then, with no takers, he could PD it (assuming there was coverage) or even APD it, assuming there was only 25% of the coverage needed.
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Old 05-02-2011, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Not true - he could have it on the Swap board as a courtesy so others could go above the ALV+15 limit. Then, with no takers, he could PD it (assuming there was coverage) or even APD it, assuming there was only 25% of the coverage needed.
He could also put it in as a qualified swap.

Lets be serious - if you put a trip on the pilot to pilot swap board as a pickup only - it is GONE.

3,2,1, gone.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
He could also put it in as a qualified swap.

Lets be serious - if you put a trip on the pilot to pilot swap board as a pickup only - it is GONE.

3,2,1, gone.
Yep - I don't know why more guys don't use it, even for swaps. I've had relatively decent luck with it. (when I had a line)
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:30 PM
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Let's be realistic. People put trips on the swap board for pickups because they can't drop them, not as a courtesy to fellow pilots. All this does is to allow more flexibility for line holders. Tsquare, I wholeheartedly agree the reserve system needs to be fixed. That is a function of the SOT or section 6. This is not a patch/fix/solution for reserves. This is a stand alone fix for pilot to pilot swap board.
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Old 05-02-2011, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
Let's be realistic. People put trips on the swap board for pickups because they can't drop them, not as a courtesy to fellow pilots. All this does is to allow more flexibility for line holders. Tsquare, I wholeheartedly agree the reserve system needs to be fixed. That is a function of the SOT or section 6. This is not a patch/fix/solution for reserves. This is a stand alone fix for pilot to pilot swap board.

I still cannot understand how cross-base-swapping can do anything but reduce the number of pilots required to staff the airline.

a little off topic...does almost 1000 posts in 2 years mean my APC addiction is still under control or out of hand?
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:04 PM
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
Any pilot that posts a trip on the swap board as a P/U presently does so with full knowlege that his/her line will be reduced by that amount. Whether that pilot chooses to pick up open time, pick up another trip off the swap board (and if out of base were allowed that in base pilot would now have more options for him/her self), fill up by going negative on their bank, or just leave it alone is entirely up to that pilot. Just because YOU would do one thing, doesn't mean everybody would do the same thing. That pilot had their own reason for dropping that trip and the swap board is what gave the pilot the flexibility to fix his/her schedule the way he wanted it without the company getting involved in any way whatsoever.

You are quite welcome for the clarification.
Believe me, I know how this works, but thank you for the contract lesson. And you believe that there is a significant number of guys that will go for a reduced line of time in the event they drop a trip.. really? With the number of people that complain about our payrates and whatnot will easily take a 30% paycut for the month and not pick anything up? Really? How senior are you?
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingSig
A reserve pilot would not get this trip regardless. If nobody picks up that "crap trip that nobody wants" then the pilot who was originally assigned that trip is still on the hook to fly that trip.
Unless he PDs or calls in sick.... You have lost sight of the problem.. it is the reserve system.
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I still cannot understand how cross-base-swapping can do anything but reduce the number of pilots required to staff the airline.

a little off topic...does almost 1000 posts in 2 years mean my APC addiction is still under control or out of hand?
This^^ thank you!


And you are almost out of control. But like me, I am sure you can quit at any time...
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
This is not a patch/fix/solution for reserves. This is a stand alone fix for pilot to pilot swap board.
I disagree. This ultimately screws the reserves.
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