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Old 05-01-2011, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
Hey buzz check these two statements out, sounds like you may one day meet the soldier who did it:

Osama bin Laden was killed by U.S. forces in a mansion outside the Pakistani capital of Islamabad along with other family members, senior U.S. official tells CNN.

CBS: Osama was “shot in the head.”
I heard bin Laden was practicing for a magic show where he would catch a bullet with his teeth. He only accomplished one of his two objectives.

On a more serious note, rumor says SEAL team. Can we put those guys in Congress next?
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
You rang?

Flares like a DC-9.

Fly safe,

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So I was taking off the other day in a mighty 88, I hit 400' and rolled into a bank but it took 2-3 seconds before the airplane responded. So out of curiosity, what's the delay for you guys controlling a UAV over Pakistan from Vegas (?) and is it quicker than the time it takes a 88 to respond to an input made from inside the plane when at high pitch?
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Old 05-01-2011, 08:56 PM
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Originally Posted by buzzpat
Bin Laden is dead...and my boys are happy. God bless America!
2 words buzz. F&@k and yeah!!!!!! He'll rot in hell getting a$$ raped by ghengis khan.
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Old 05-01-2011, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Denny,

Don't worry. Next week the rumor will be that SEA is doubling in size and that the 787 will be there next fall.

I'm starting to catch on.

Ahhh NewK, Did someone show you the "big picture?" I need a look at that!! I'm not worried...........yet! I'll believe it when I see it, like the fabled 100-120 seater!! A lot of talk and no action.

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Old 05-01-2011, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
Ahhh NewK, Did someone show you the "big picture?" I need a look at that!! I'm not worried...........yet! I'll believe it when I see it, like the fabled 100-120 seater!! A lot of talk and no action.

Denny
Yup. They showed it to me. Then when I figured it out, they took it from me and shook it up. Then they scribbled on it again, showed it to me, and I figured it out again, but they took it again and shook it.....

It keeps happening.

The BIG picture looks like this.....

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Old 05-02-2011, 04:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nosmo King
I heard bin Laden was practicing for a magic show where he would catch a bullet with his teeth. He only accomplished one of his two objectives.

On a more serious note, rumor says SEAL team. Can we put those guys in Congress next?
I've seen reports that it was SEAL Team Six and that they've buried his a$$ at sea. I'm all for his crazies swimming down to pay their respects (cement overshoes may be required).

As to your other statement, Did you mean to say "On Congress" ala Vince Flynn's "Term Limits"?
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Old 05-02-2011, 04:47 AM
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In the words of that piece of garbage after 9-11...."We were Rejoiced"

God Bless America!
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Rather B Fishin
Unfortunately I cannot attend the 66 meeting. Your post seems a little counter intuitive. Are you concerned about reserve staffing hence more pilots or are you concerned about greenslipping which promotes more overtime = less pilots?????
OK... assuming that the manning formula is not a static document:

1) A pilot wants to drop a trip but cannot because of capped reserve days.
2) Pilot puts the trip on the swap board, where it sits..
3) Pilot from another base swoops in and picks up the trip

Repercussions of this exchange:

Because the trip was covered by a different base, it would not go down on the liability side of that bases' ledger to use an accounting motif. When the numbers are crunched, they will see that fewer reserve pilots are required since the trips are being covered. IOW, all that has been done in effect is to shift that flying to another base. I am sure that we are only talking about a little amount of time, but what boils my shrimp is that this proposal does nothing to alleviate the reserve manning issue. WE.. the pilots... help out the issue by allowing trips to be covered by other bases, and skeds has not to get it's hands dirty in the process. If this is to be allowed, we need to bring back true yellow slips without all the days of availability garbage and let a reserve pilot pick up a trip that is either in open time or on the swap board.. within his base.... first.. before any cherry pickers from outside. Then, I might be interested. Until then, the out of base WS/GS process is working fine. This issue here is the reserve system. This does nada to fix it and is little more than diversion from that.
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Old 05-02-2011, 05:12 AM
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Originally Posted by forgot to bid
So I was taking off the other day in a mighty 88, I hit 400' and rolled into a bank but it took 2-3 seconds before the airplane responded. So out of curiosity, what's the delay for you guys controlling a UAV over Pakistan from Vegas (?) and is it quicker than the time it takes a 88 to respond to an input made from inside the plane when at high pitch?
Good question. There is in fact a delay between control input and effect. Not necessarily from what a person might believe though, due to the geographical distance of the machine from the operator. (Physically speaking of course, mental distance could be even greater.)

The majority of time delay comes from the control station talking satellite speak, the satellite talking to the airplane, and then the airplane having to decipher the satellite speak and turn it into mechanical control input.

Less than your 3 second delay control input to control effect in the 88 at high pitch attitudes though.

GJ
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Old 05-02-2011, 06:09 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
OK... assuming that the manning formula is not a static document:

1) A pilot wants to drop a trip but cannot because of capped reserve days.
2) Pilot puts the trip on the swap board, where it sits..
3) Pilot from another base swoops in and picks up the trip

Repercussions of this exchange:

Because the trip was covered by a different base, it would not go down on the liability side of that bases' ledger to use an accounting motif. When the numbers are crunched, they will see that fewer reserve pilots are required since the trips are being covered. IOW, all that has been done in effect is to shift that flying to another base. I am sure that we are only talking about a little amount of time, but what boils my shrimp is that this proposal does nothing to alleviate the reserve manning issue. WE.. the pilots... help out the issue by allowing trips to be covered by other bases, and skeds has not to get it's hands dirty in the process. If this is to be allowed, we need to bring back true yellow slips without all the days of availability garbage and let a reserve pilot pick up a trip that is either in open time or on the swap board.. within his base.... first.. before any cherry pickers from outside. Then, I might be interested. Until then, the out of base WS/GS process is working fine. This issue here is the reserve system. This does nada to fix it and is little more than diversion from that.
The trip wasn't covered by another base. The trip was owned by a pilot who then chose to give it up. There will be no "numbers crunching" when it comes to this trip in regards to staffing because it started out as a covered trip, the company never got involved with covering the trip, and the trip was flown without a hitch. One pilot was able to get rid of his trip that he didn't want to fly and another pilot was able to pick up more time without regard to the ALV+15. The flying didn't shift bases. It's still the same trip out of the same base. Just because one guy in one seat may be from a different base, he's in that base for that trip.
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