Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-29-2011, 06:37 AM
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Can't believe you pilots haven't read this yet:
12 airport employees charged in 2 drug smuggling rings | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Feds arrest Delta baggage handlers in drug smuggling probe at Metro Airport | detnews.com | The Detroit News
FT thread:
12 DL Rampers arrested with cocaine - FlyerTalk Forums
HOLY SH**.
You pilots: Better check the damn cargo hold for illegal sh** when coming from Mortego bay!
12 airport employees charged in 2 drug smuggling rings | Detroit Free Press | freep.com
Feds arrest Delta baggage handlers in drug smuggling probe at Metro Airport | detnews.com | The Detroit News
FT thread:
12 DL Rampers arrested with cocaine - FlyerTalk Forums
HOLY SH**.
You pilots: Better check the damn cargo hold for illegal sh** when coming from Mortego bay!
Check out the green page 10-7 for Montego Bay. I was laughing when I read it. I think the guards at each cargo bin smoked more weed than Cheech & Chong!!
04-29-2011, 07:28 AM
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04-29-2011, 07:29 AM
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04-29-2011, 08:00 AM
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Here's a direct link to the document: DALPA Meeting Expense Report
04-29-2011, 08:03 AM
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04-29-2011, 08:40 AM
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DAL 88,
It's all been pulled down and the images you posted no longer work.
It's all been pulled down and the images you posted no longer work.
04-29-2011, 08:43 AM
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First post on the forum. I'm also new to Delta. 2010 hire. Had a few questions that I'm curious about and thought might stimulate good conversation.
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
2) A totally different topic. I'm new to ALPA. My first impression is that they are a large, comprehensive, and well organized business. Like a good ALPA member, I've almost finished the books, Flying the Line. There is no doubt that over the last 80 years we owe much of the success of our careers to the folks at ALPA. That being said, with the expanded role of regionals over the past 15 years, how is it that ALPA can represent both Regionals and Mainline pilots? Regional's went from small propeller planes with 5% of the business to 76 seat jets that make up 40% percent of today's flying. Clearly the main objective of nearly all mainline unions now is to reclaim that flying and bring all 80ish+ seat flying back in house. How can Alpa join in a tireless campaign to do that while also representing regionals interests? Is there a size of airplane where they say, "no this belongs at the mainline". Can someone with ALPA knowledge better explain their policy on this going forward?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
2) A totally different topic. I'm new to ALPA. My first impression is that they are a large, comprehensive, and well organized business. Like a good ALPA member, I've almost finished the books, Flying the Line. There is no doubt that over the last 80 years we owe much of the success of our careers to the folks at ALPA. That being said, with the expanded role of regionals over the past 15 years, how is it that ALPA can represent both Regionals and Mainline pilots? Regional's went from small propeller planes with 5% of the business to 76 seat jets that make up 40% percent of today's flying. Clearly the main objective of nearly all mainline unions now is to reclaim that flying and bring all 80ish+ seat flying back in house. How can Alpa join in a tireless campaign to do that while also representing regionals interests? Is there a size of airplane where they say, "no this belongs at the mainline". Can someone with ALPA knowledge better explain their policy on this going forward?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
04-29-2011, 08:48 AM
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First post on the forum. I'm also new to Delta. 2010 hire. Had a few questions that I'm curious about and thought might stimulate good conversation.
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
2) A totally different topic. I'm new to ALPA. My first impression is that they are a large, comprehensive, and well organized business. Like a good ALPA member, I've almost finished the books, Flying the Line. There is no doubt that over the last 80 years we owe much of the success of our careers to the folks at ALPA. That being said, with the expanded role of regionals over the past 15 years, how is it that ALPA can represent both Regionals and Mainline pilots? Regional's went from small propeller planes with 5% of the business to 76 seat jets that make up 40% percent of today's flying. Clearly the main objective of nearly all mainline unions now is to reclaim that flying and bring all 80ish+ seat flying back in house. How can Alpa join in a tireless campaign to do that while also representing regionals interests? Is there a size of airplane where they say, "no this belongs at the mainline". Can someone with ALPA knowledge better explain their policy on this going forward?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
2) A totally different topic. I'm new to ALPA. My first impression is that they are a large, comprehensive, and well organized business. Like a good ALPA member, I've almost finished the books, Flying the Line. There is no doubt that over the last 80 years we owe much of the success of our careers to the folks at ALPA. That being said, with the expanded role of regionals over the past 15 years, how is it that ALPA can represent both Regionals and Mainline pilots? Regional's went from small propeller planes with 5% of the business to 76 seat jets that make up 40% percent of today's flying. Clearly the main objective of nearly all mainline unions now is to reclaim that flying and bring all 80ish+ seat flying back in house. How can Alpa join in a tireless campaign to do that while also representing regionals interests? Is there a size of airplane where they say, "no this belongs at the mainline". Can someone with ALPA knowledge better explain their policy on this going forward?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
04-29-2011, 09:04 AM
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First post on the forum. I'm also new to Delta. 2010 hire. Had a few questions that I'm curious about and thought might stimulate good conversation.
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
1) If LUV has a higher cost structure than us, how do they turn a profit when we don't? (I've been told by managers at Delta that SW has a higher cost structure. Also, its well known that they pay thier people more across the board.ie_Pilots, FA, Rampers) They have lower yields per ticket in revenue, don't collect a premium on First Class seats, and miss out on big money from bags. I'd like to see a list compiled of why they make money when we don't. And not something like: They don't have RJs or our VPs are paid more or they don't have Alpa. Something based purely in financial terms.
and here is one that offers comparitive analysis:
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0Summary09.htm
Here is a direct wage one that shows the LUV pilots making more but you need to look at block per pilot as well:
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...0PERSONNEL.htm
This one is a good start, because it gives equivalent pilots for equal block.
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...ity%202009.htm
Here is the block per pilot breakdown:
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...er%20Month.htm
Passengers per pilot:
http://web.mit.edu/airlinedata/www/2...Equivalent.htm
2) A totally different topic. I'm new to ALPA. My first impression is that they are a large, comprehensive, and well organized business. Like a good ALPA member, I've almost finished the books, Flying the Line. There is no doubt that over the last 80 years we owe much of the success of our careers to the folks at ALPA. That being said, with the expanded role of regionals over the past 15 years, how is it that ALPA can represent both Regionals and Mainline pilots? Regional's went from small propeller planes with 5% of the business to 76 seat jets that make up 40% percent of today's flying. Clearly the main objective of nearly all mainline unions now is to reclaim that flying and bring all 80ish+ seat flying back in house. How can Alpa join in a tireless campaign to do that while also representing regionals interests? Is there a size of airplane where they say, "no this belongs at the mainline". Can someone with ALPA knowledge better explain their policy on this going forward?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
Also, for those claiming that our jobs are continuously being outsourced, aren't they eliminating enough 50 seaters to more than offset the increase of the 70-76 seat flying?
ALPA could recapture the flying at the majors and represent the regional pilots interests. It requires the mainline pilots accepting that the regional ALPA members are part of their trade and when the flying is recaptured, they do not just step on their fellow ALPA brother or sister, but find a solution that benefits these pilots that is better than the street. In a word, Unity. If we all cannot see that, we are doomed from the start.
04-29-2011, 09:58 AM
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Little help please...I have been on long term mil leave and trying to remember how to use ICrew. How does a reserve go in and see what kind of line was built for him before PCS gave up on trying to reach the Min Line Value and dropped him into reserve? Thanks.
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