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Old 04-21-2011, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
What grievance should be filed?
Breach of contract, IF what's going on at RAH is not what you (DALPA) intended.

If it is, let us know.

Don't blow smoke up our ass and act like you are sending out some special double top secret investigative super undercover lawyer out to determine if there is an alternate meaning to the definition to the meaning of what an air carrier is, 3 years AFTER you signed the agreement.

The ONLY definition of air carrier that matters is the definition you (DALPA) understood it to mean when you signed the contract.

Period.
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:32 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
When we made the contract, did we (DALPA) intend to allow Delta to outsource our flying to another company that flew A-320's?

If so, no grievance.

If not, grievance.

So far, no grievance. Enough (not) said.
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Breach of contract, IF what's going on at RAH is not what you (DALPA) intended.

If it is, let us know.

Don't blow smoke up our ass and act like you are sending out some special double top secret investigative super undercover lawyer out to determine if there is an alternate meaning to the definition to the meaning of what an air carrier is, 3 years AFTER you signed the agreement.

The ONLY definition of air carrier that matters is the definition you (DALPA) understood it to mean when you signed the contract.

Period.
Good points.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Breach of contract, IF what's going on at RAH is not what you (DALPA) intended.

If it is, let us know.

Don't blow smoke up our ass and act like you are sending out some special double top secret investigative super undercover lawyer out to determine if there is an alternate meaning to the definition to the meaning of what an air carrier is, 3 years AFTER you signed the agreement.

The ONLY definition of air carrier that matters is the definition you (DALPA) understood it to mean when you signed the contract.

Period.

Very well stated.

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Old 04-22-2011, 05:21 AM
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Well, in good news today, I found out it was Earth Day from DeltaNet.
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Old 04-22-2011, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by iaflyer
Well, in good news today, I found out it was Earth Day from DeltaNet.

It's also good friday - the best news.

In the spirit of the druid holiday of earth day, starbucks has free coffee all day if you have a starbucks mug.
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Old 04-22-2011, 06:30 AM
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Is it possible to go on strike, not against the company but against your own union? Ie, we won't pay dues until this is dealt with? Why should we continue to fund an operation that is working against us? I know about DPA, but are there any other options? Recalls, a drive to flood the reps with email, etc? There have to be some creative solutions out there.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:17 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyZ
Is it possible to go on strike, not against the company but against your own union? Ie, we won't pay dues until this is dealt with? Why should we continue to fund an operation that is working against us? I know about DPA, but are there any other options? Recalls, a drive to flood the reps with email, etc? There have to be some creative solutions out there.
The creative options are the ones within the framework of ALPA that the DPA has not bothered with, as articulated above. Our union does not fear DPA because they know they do not have the numbers - they are giving it just enough attention so that DPA thinks they are having an impact, but according to my reps they do not consider it a real threat at all.

What ALPA and our local union really fears, like vampires afraid of the light, is a true democratic movement that could unseat their empire. I have no respect for the DPA because they offer nothing but empty hope for the disenfranchised while ignoring the obvious solutions right under their noses.

Just imagine if they actually had the numbers that they claim to have actively voting in LEC elections, writing resolutions, initiating recalls. Take a lesson from Moak on how it's done.

In the mean time we will have the union we deserve.

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Old 04-22-2011, 07:33 AM
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OK...intrerrogative to all the fun union talk...Where is that AE?? I thought we might see one today.
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Old 04-22-2011, 07:46 AM
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OK...intrerrogative to all the fun union talk...Where is that AE?? I thought we might see one today.
Really? It seems all has been quiet on the AE front for months.

You heard one was coming out today?
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Originally Posted by newKnow
Really? It seems all has been quiet on the AE front for months.

You heard one was coming out today?
No, I had not heard anything specific. I am currently on MIL leave to return this summer. I get my info (rumors) from Deltanet, this forum, and the occassional Email from buddies. Last Email (two weeks ago) said one could be out as early as this week...so I was just wondering.
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