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Old 04-12-2011, 04:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Pineapple Guy
tsquare, let me ask a very simple question. Why have only 2 guys out of 2000 volunteered to be DPA base representatives? I'm not trying to be arrogant, just asking why such a low level of commitment among those who are trying to overturn the current institution.

ALPA has plenty of negatives. And it has the "home field advantage". It will take a dedicated effort by a group of people willing to step up and get involved. Two guys can't do it.
I don't dispute that.... well the first part anyway. Actually your comment about alpa (national) having plenty of negatives is spot on too. I just can't stomach the waste and abuse that continually gets a pass throughout the association. Doesn't that make you sick? But probably for the same reason that the same cadre of guys are always in the limelight at alpa. It just wouldn't be fun work.. for most of us... I know I'm not interested in doing that kind of work. I would much rather fly airplanes. And maybe DPA wouldn't be any different if they took over.. maybe they would... I just think that alpa needs a little kick in the ass on a continuing basis to let them know that they are one vote away from having to really go to work somewhere. Just like the following... when alpa knows their cushy gig is on the line.. they will work a little harder...

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Old 04-12-2011, 04:33 AM
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Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:36 AM
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This happened up in EWR a few years back. A 738 hit one parked ERJ-145 and then nailed another. One of the rudders was ripped off. The thing is the 738 was on the centerline of the taxiway and the E145s were in their proper place... shows you can trust centerlines:

Six Embraer 145 airplanes were parked side-by-side in an unmarked, paved "run-up block" area between two parallel taxiways at a large, international airport, as they waited for further instruction from air traffic control (ATC).

A Boeing 737-824 was instructed by ATC to continue on the taxiway, behind the line of airplanes, and park between the fifth and sixth airplane in the row. With the nose wheel centered on the taxi line, the right winglet of the Boeing struck the tails of the first two airplanes parked in the "run-up block," which resulted in substantial damage to one parked airplane. According to Advisory Circular 150/5300-13, Taxiway and Taxilane Design Rationale, "The need for ample wingtip clearance is driven by the fact that the pilots of most modern jets cannot see their airplane's wingtips." Taxiway Centerline to Object Separation states: "...a minimum separation between taxiway centerline and an object is 0.70 times the wingspan of the most demanding airplane plus 10 feet (3m)." According to the Airman's Information Manual, 2-3-4b. Taxiway Markings, Taxiway Centerline: "The taxiway centerline...provides a visual cue to permit taxiing along a designated path. Ideally the aircraft should be kept centered over this line during taxi to ensure wing-tip clearance." According to the FAA inspector who responded to the scene, the nose wheel of the Boeing was centered over the taxiway centerline.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this ACC as follows:

The airport's failure to install markings on a parking "block" that bordered the taxiway, which failed to provide adequate clearance between taxiing airplanes and airplanes parked in the block. Factors in the accident were air traffic control's use of the unmarked parking "block," and the flight crew's misjudgement of the clearance between their airplane and the parked airplanes in the block, during taxi.


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Old 04-12-2011, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
DOH!

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Old 04-12-2011, 04:37 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
That sucks.

Look at it this way, a lot of people don't bid and get the best lines of their lives. Cross your fingers.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:39 AM
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Originally Posted by hockeypilot44
Damnit!!!!! I forgot to bid. Just realized it due to your post. I'm sick so I didn't think of it. First time that's happened to me.
You've never been sick before?
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:11 AM
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Originally Posted by nerd2009
The RJ must be totaled by the impact to the tail. A lot of twisting through the fuselage. "Another one bites the dust"!
Sadly, it looks like a CRJ700 or 900 which means we will buy another one to replace it.

By the video, that 380 looked like it was moving at a decent clip. I can only imagine what the impact felt like in the CRJ.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL4EVER
By the video, that 380 looked like it was moving at a decent clip. I can only imagine what the impact felt like in the CRJ.
That was my first thought also. That Air France was going mighty fast.
You'd think he would slow down just a bit if his wingtip clearance was going to be that tight. What was he thinking?
Is it possible he did not see the Comair?
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:35 AM
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I wonder how much hotel rooms were going to cost AF.....
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Old 04-12-2011, 06:01 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
I don't dispute that.... well the first part anyway. Actually your comment about alpa (national) having plenty of negatives is spot on too. I just can't stomach the waste and abuse that continually gets a pass throughout the association. Doesn't that make you sick? But probably for the same reason that the same cadre of guys are always in the limelight at alpa. It just wouldn't be fun work.. for most of us... I know I'm not interested in doing that kind of work. I would much rather fly airplanes. And maybe DPA wouldn't be any different if they took over.. maybe they would... I just think that alpa needs a little kick in the ass on a continuing basis to let them know that they are one vote away from having to really go to work somewhere. Just like the following... when alpa knows their cushy gig is on the line.. they will work a little harder...

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Have you shared that specific information regarding “the waste and abuse that continually gets a pass throughout the association” with your Delta pilot representatives??? The “same cadre of guys that are always in the limelight at alpa” are Delta pilots willing to do the work that you are not, because you would rather fly airplanes. It would be nice if everyone could just fly airplanes and no one had to do the work, but that certainly is not the case. Sometimes the work has to be done even when it isn’t fun. Believe it or not, Delta pilots are your union and your representatives. ALPA Int’l is a resource that Delta pilots use. There is NO cushy gig, and perhaps you would know that if you ever had volunteered for something. The fact is, it is all about volunteering, whether it’s to represent, work on a committee, or take your personal extra time to show up to a meeting. That won’t change even if you prefer to make the change to another union that has no resources.
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