Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-11-2011, 04:03 PM
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04-11-2011, 04:27 PM
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04-11-2011, 04:32 PM
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not so fast. Tsquare may be right that pineapple guy has a penchant for sarcasm, but he's putting extra words in his mouth. I don't think pg's post said anything about the number of alpa supporters, and i'm not sure tsquare is correct in his assertion that anyone (much less everyone) is forced to join alpa.
All pg did with numbers in his post was to question nerd's 50% articifial inflation in dpa support. That and he suggested only 2 people have stepped up to be reps, something i didn't see tsquare, esquire, cover on cross-examination.
Pg can be a bit arrogant with his numbers, of course, but t2 failed to connect on cross. The ruling is overturned by a higher court.
All pg did with numbers in his post was to question nerd's 50% articifial inflation in dpa support. That and he suggested only 2 people have stepped up to be reps, something i didn't see tsquare, esquire, cover on cross-examination.
Pg can be a bit arrogant with his numbers, of course, but t2 failed to connect on cross. The ruling is overturned by a higher court.
04-11-2011, 04:35 PM
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As far as DPA support, it is at best a wag. I guess you could get a scientific polling group to get a better read, but I would also bet that that group would find that alpa support isn't as high as PG thinks it is either. What those numbers are can be argued ad nauseum in the forum environment, so I guess we can declare a mistrial.
ALPA has plenty of negatives. And it has the "home field advantage". It will take a dedicated effort by a group of people willing to step up and get involved. Two guys can't do it.
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04-11-2011, 05:30 PM
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04-11-2011, 06:28 PM
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In laymen’s "FTB" terms:
According to Check's definition he presented: A single transportation system exists when there is a substantial integration of operations, financial control, and labor and personnel functions and a substantial degree of overlapping ownership, senior management, and BOD’s. However, as in the US Airways case substantial integration of operations does not require total integration of operations.
How can you not say RAH's CHQ and Shuttle America who does flying for us under a CPA does not meet the definition of a STS?
All flying performed by or for Delta will be performed by Delta pilots in accordance with the PWA
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Okay, now, RAH. ...
According to Check's definition he presented: A single transportation system exists when there is a substantial integration of operations, financial control, and labor and personnel functions and a substantial degree of overlapping ownership, senior management, and BOD’s. However, as in the US Airways case substantial integration of operations does not require total integration of operations.
How can you not say RAH's CHQ and Shuttle America who does flying for us under a CPA does not meet the definition of a STS?
https://www.judicialview.com/Court-C...Inc.//45/19575
International Brotherhood of Teamsters Airline Divison v Frontier Airlines, Inc.
Case No. 10-2291 (C.A. 7, Dec. 13, 2010)
This appeal by the defendant airlines from the grant of a preliminary injunction to a labor union presents a novel question under the Railway Labor Act, 45 U.S.C. §§ 151 et seq., which despite its name also governs labor relations in the airline industry.
On October 1 of last year, Republic Airways, a holding company that already owned a number of airlines, added Frontier Airlines to its collection. Soon afterward it announced that it was shifting maintenance work on Frontier’s aircraft to Milwaukee—where maintenance is performed by nonunion workers—from Denver, where Frontier’s maintenance workers (whom we’ll call “mechanics,” although some are not) are represented by the Teamsters Union. The lawfulness of Republic’s shifting the maintenance work to Milwaukee is not questioned, but the union contends that its collective bargaining agreement with Frontier determines the rights of Frontier mechanics affected by the shift.
Republic denies this. It contends that the airlines that it owns, although separately incorporated, constitute a “single transportation system” or “single carrier,” within the meaning of the Railway Labor Act.
...cont'd.
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