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AND WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NOT WANT TO TRY? WHY?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH DALPA SAYING "THIS IS GOOD NEWS, WE'RE GOING TO STOP THIS MULTI-CERTIFICATE SCAM NOW."
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
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AND WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NOT WANT TO TRY? WHY?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH DALPA SAYING "THIS IS GOOD NEWS, WE'RE GOING TO STOP THIS MULTI-CERTIFICATE SCAM NOW."
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots.
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots.
I might just have to call my old friend Vito to help out with this request.
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I don't know all this legal stuff. I think its just hard for the average line pilot to believe that Republic is not an air carrier. What the heck is Republic Air Holdings if its not a company providing air transportation? They are tricking the system through a legal subterfuge.
Right is right. Our contract prevents codesharing with a company that has Airbuses and E-190s. At least we thought it did.
At this point, ALPA may have to file this grievance just to maintain any sort of credibility with the membership. We've been giving away pieces of our scope clause for so long that its kinda like the sun rising in the morning. A little scope erosion pops up -- ALPA lets it slide or agrees to "settle". Drip, drip, drip.
I'm just tired of it.
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The scary thought is that ALPA doesnt want to open Pandoras box here because they want the ability to grow other ALPA regionals in the same manner that RAH has and feel that the short term transfer of flying is small potatoes to the growth one might see by getting bigger jets with scope end arounds at these super regionals.
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Thats what Im thinking too. You would think that if this ruling gave DALPA the ability to challenge RAH it would be good for other regional ALPA carriers. If RAH isn't allowed to do the flying then it could be transferred over to other ALPA regionals. While this doesn't bring the flying back to DAL it does stop the multilevel scope end arounds that RAH is playing and sets a precedent while potentially helping out your other union members.
The scary thought is that ALPA doesnt want to open Pandoras box here because they want the ability to grow other ALPA regionals in the same manner that RAH has and feel that the short term transfer of flying is small potatoes to the growth one might see by getting bigger jets with scope end arounds at these super regionals.
The scary thought is that ALPA doesnt want to open Pandoras box here because they want the ability to grow other ALPA regionals in the same manner that RAH has and feel that the short term transfer of flying is small potatoes to the growth one might see by getting bigger jets with scope end arounds at these super regionals.
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AND WHY IN THE HELL DO WE NOT WANT TO TRY? WHY?! WHAT IS WRONG WITH DALPA SAYING "THIS IS GOOD NEWS, WE'RE GOING TO STOP THIS MULTI-CERTIFICATE SCAM NOW."
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
Instead "well, you don't know what you're talking about because you're just a pilot and if we know anything as a pilot's union is that pilots don't know anything. So status quo and don't question our lawyers."
Funny, there is always 2 lawyers in a case, one for and against the same thing so you can't question any lawyer?
But Skywest there is your green light, go for it. We'll pay for your Airbuses. ALPA won't grieve it if you consider voting them in too.
Maybe the Teamsters would like 12,000 mainline pilots? I'm all for anything at this point. Imagine if the 2000+ pilots who signed those DPA cards, probably few signing them because they're in love with the DPA, invited another established union? Could we finally get ALPA to do it's job correctly which includes not pushing back against the pilots?
There was a ruling made yesterday, not even 24 hours ago. That may change the legal situation and it may not.
The situation will be analyzed by real lawyers and not fake internet lawyers.
Before spending a million dollars of dues money, sufficient research will be done to ensure we have a case.
If we have a case, then we will file a grievance.
Is that simple enough for you? I have said multiple times that a grievance will be filed if there is a violation, and then you pretend like I said "we will not file a grievance." The only difference in our positions, is that I want a real lawyer to analyze the situation and not an internet blowhard, no matter how smart he thinks he is.
I fell like I am arguing with my girls back when they are teenagers. Cripes.
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Anyone try signing up for the Delta MEC Pilot Blast to receive text messages, like when the bid window is open among other things? I tried but never got a text for the authorization code.
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