Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
04-03-2011, 01:56 AM
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Funny, except likely one of the many full time flight pay loss volunteers is spending your dues dollars to produce it. Wonder where Spakler's IP pings from? Herndon or close to Virginia Ave?
Here's a fair question: what percentage of DAL pilots make over $250K/year?
Now what percentage of DAL ALPA volunteers make over $250K/yr?
Are ALPA volunteer tax returns or compensation public domain and obtainable under the FOIA and Labor Department reporting rules?
Here's a fair question: what percentage of DAL pilots make over $250K/year?
Now what percentage of DAL ALPA volunteers make over $250K/yr?
Are ALPA volunteer tax returns or compensation public domain and obtainable under the FOIA and Labor Department reporting rules?
If your figures were true, you'd think we'd have hundreds of pilots trying to get in on some of that; yet many positions end up running unopposed. Now why do you think that is, if its such a gravy train job???
Nice first post, BTW.
04-03-2011, 02:44 AM
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How much do you get paid there?
04-03-2011, 03:31 AM
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04-03-2011, 03:32 AM
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Something to ponder ...
If the Delta MEC negotiates with Delta Management and Delta Management OWNS Comair, why couldn't the Delta MEC simply negotiate with Delta Management if they wanted their furloughed pilots hired at Comair without resigning seniority?
Why was JC Lawson involved at all?
Something to ponder ...
If the Delta MEC negotiates with Delta Management and Delta Management OWNS Comair, why couldn't the Delta MEC simply negotiate with Delta Management if they wanted their furloughed pilots hired at Comair without resigning seniority?
Why was JC Lawson involved at all?
Exactly. You have demonstrated the point with your example.
This iteration (the one you wrote above) is the question and scenario a critical thinker asks himself first.
Do you dispute there was a JC Lawson letter. Do you dispute that a wholly owned subsidiary won the "round'? Do you dispute that mainline pilots were not hired and were required to resign their seniority to take a job at Comair?
Your question proves the whole issue of conflict of interest.
This issue continues with the FC ruling. Its indefensible really.
04-03-2011, 04:34 AM
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Some of your points and concerns are valid, and some I disagree with.
04-03-2011, 04:42 AM
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By blaming JC Lawson, you give him too much credit. It was company policy that new hires resign their seniority. Management chose not to change it and would never have considered it unless we opened up the contract and gave something up.
However, JC saw an opportunity and chose to exploit it, seeking more scope relief or a flow-through or whatever. When he was rebuffed, he chose to write the letter and twist the knife a bit more, when he could've simply written a letter of support, even though he was powerless to change it.
There's plenty to loathe about JC, especially his stance on this issue, but never forget it was management that ultimately decided not to help the DAL furloughs. Many of us line pilots vehemently disagreed.
However, JC saw an opportunity and chose to exploit it, seeking more scope relief or a flow-through or whatever. When he was rebuffed, he chose to write the letter and twist the knife a bit more, when he could've simply written a letter of support, even though he was powerless to change it.
There's plenty to loathe about JC, especially his stance on this issue, but never forget it was management that ultimately decided not to help the DAL furloughs. Many of us line pilots vehemently disagreed.
04-03-2011, 04:56 AM
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By blaming JC Lawson, you give him too much credit. It was company policy that new hires resign their seniority. Management chose not to change it and would never have considered it unless we opened up the contract and gave something up.
However, JC saw an opportunity and chose to exploit it, seeking more scope relief or a flow-through or whatever. When he was rebuffed, he chose to write the letter and twist the knife a bit more, when he could've simply written a letter of support, even though he was powerless to change it.
There's plenty to loathe about JC, especially his stance on this issue, but never forget it was management that ultimately decided not to help the DAL furloughs. Many of us line pilots vehemently disagreed.
However, JC saw an opportunity and chose to exploit it, seeking more scope relief or a flow-through or whatever. When he was rebuffed, he chose to write the letter and twist the knife a bit more, when he could've simply written a letter of support, even though he was powerless to change it.
There's plenty to loathe about JC, especially his stance on this issue, but never forget it was management that ultimately decided not to help the DAL furloughs. Many of us line pilots vehemently disagreed.
I agree that the "issue" is bigger than JC Lawson. I also hope for the best for the Comair pilots. The sad reality is that the Comair pilots hitched their wagon to a company/MEC that wanted to extend its reach. While this is quite understandable for the company, it is the MEC that overstepped. The current Comair pilots are reaping the effects of that policy/strategy.
I have personally commuted on Comair with some regularity and never met a Comair pilot I didnt like, but that is not the issue.
04-03-2011, 05:37 AM
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04-03-2011, 05:42 AM
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GMAB. Honestly I have no ill will towards you what so ever. We differ on which organization should represent us, nothing more than that. I disagree with people all of the time, but that does not mean that I am "out to get them."
Some of your points and concerns are valid, and some I disagree with.
Some of your points and concerns are valid, and some I disagree with.
Look. All the above is just statement of the obvious. The bottom line is that another poster asked a rhetorical question. That question was intended to be derogatory and make the tired, old point: "If you're so smart, then why don't you run for office?" You chimed in very quickly to answer the question for me. Could have easily waited to let me answer it. I think you came off as rude and a smart @ss. But I'm willing to let it go and forgive and forget. You're the one who brought it up again.
04-03-2011, 06:04 AM
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