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Old 03-16-2011, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by DAL 88 Driver
Having the structure in place isn't enough. It has to be used effectively to be of any value. You aren't going to get the kind of unity you're looking for with weak leadership and a lack of any real, compelling objective. DAL management went for the throat and tried to destroy our careers during BK. And now that the BK/emergency has been over for several years, they refuse to even lift a finger to try and make it right. Even worse, DALPA refuses to so much as ASK them to make it right. Unity will fall into place nicely when it is clear that we can rally around the objective of correcting this. But it ain't gonna happen with Lee Moak type leaders and with people like yourself, who rationalize every excuse they can find not to fight for it.
Just curious, did you run for rep in the last election?
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
The only difference is that DPA would come with the baggage that alpa national has.... and it is not necessarily true what you say here.. I have a problem with the structure at the national association...
Then write a resolution, and work the process. If the majority of the members (which are mainline pilots at national) agree, the structure changes.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by satchip
Just curious, did you run for rep in the last election?
No he did not.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
As I have said before, I tried to volunteer once, (twice really) received no interest.. I don't ask to volunteer a second time..

They aren't exactly receptive to those who might rattle the cage...
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp
They aren't exactly receptive to those who might rattle the cage...
zactly.. funny thing was that I was volunteering for a committee that is apolitical.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:44 AM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
As I have said before, I tried to volunteer once, (twice really) received no interest.. I don't ask to volunteer a second time..
Well you should. P2P is looking for pilots, your LEC Chairman is looking for volunteers at the LEC level. I say persistence pays off. If I counted the times I have been told No, I would be a rich man. It never deters me, and it should not deter you.
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Then write a resolution, and work the process. If the majority of the members (which are mainline pilots at national) agree, the structure changes.
I only have 15 years left at DAL....
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Well you should. P2P is looking for pilots, your LEC Chairman is looking for volunteers at the LEC level. I say persistence pays off. If I counted the times I have been told No, I would be a rich man. It never deters me, and it should not deter you.
You truly don't get it do you?
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
CHQ can do branded flying for F9 and us because they do not fly anything large enough to be in violation, and you know I am not trying to dodge anything. Also, its a map, not a contract.

Tell me, does Shuttle america fly anything larger than 76 seats for anyone else?
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Old 03-16-2011, 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Another issue, why does DAL continue to fund a competitor? Is it a double edged sword? Is it better to pay RAH to operate DCI flights on routes that compete with F9 in hopes of taking the revenue over F9, rather then use a different DCI carrier?
I did not say it made sense. Also our MEH code share agreement is over. If they connect to a F9 flight, we should check and see if there is an inter line agreement for baggage. If there is, dig deeper. Reality is that DAL will put the RJET jets where they make DAL the most money. (or lose the least )

At the end of the day this language has not changed since the JPWA and we ratified it. We have to stop doing that. Read it. Understand it.
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