Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-12-2011, 08:00 PM
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No, but that's not IMHO the major problem with it. Touch drop is great for some, and it rewards the jailhouse lawyers and computer programmer/bidder types (especially with good relative seniority in category) but there's a better way to go IMHO.
Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.
Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.
Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.
Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.
Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.
Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.
03-12-2011, 10:30 PM
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Its pathetic that Delta pilots do not get paid until the damn Beacon is flashing. I've been at the gate with the door closed, full of pax, ticket on the line if S$#@ hits the fan with NO PAY because the beacon is not flashing. Who in DALPA ever accepted this deal?
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
I suggested this a while back and it didn't get rave reviews. I agree with you. If I can be held liable for something I do before or after a flight, then I want to be compensated for it. This could be something we push for on the "work rules" side as well as a $ increase per hour. You might see some folks jumping ship to domestic if it happens. The shuttle guys would really increase their net pay.
03-13-2011, 12:55 AM
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Its pathetic that Delta pilots do not get paid until the damn Beacon is flashing. I've been at the gate with the door closed, full of pax, ticket on the line if S$#@ hits the fan with NO PAY because the beacon is not flashing. Who in DALPA ever accepted this deal?
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
03-13-2011, 01:39 AM
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03-13-2011, 05:23 AM
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If scheduling puts a short call on my schedule, I acknowledge it, then they realise that it conflicts with the trip I am actually on, and remove it, shouldn't I still get credit for it?
03-13-2011, 05:36 AM
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IIRC, the new rest duty rules are based on duty time not just flight time. It's a good time to change the paradigm. Go back and look at your rotations, calculate how much it would be if you were paid this way vs the current way, and factor that into rates. We could sell a smaller rate increase but actually get more money, I think.
03-13-2011, 05:37 AM
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03-13-2011, 06:26 AM
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Its pathetic that Delta pilots do not get paid until the damn Beacon is flashing. I've been at the gate with the door closed, full of pax, ticket on the line if S$#@ hits the fan with NO PAY because the beacon is not flashing. Who in DALPA ever accepted this deal?
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
At least :45 min pre & :30 min post pay each flight. Clock starts with main door closed... think most of the old North fleet is still brakes released / door closed = $$$.
03-13-2011, 06:32 AM
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Check out these photos. Scroll right to left over them to see the before after. Wow...
ABC News - Japan Earthquake: before and after
ABC News - Japan Earthquake: before and after
03-13-2011, 06:43 AM
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Check out these photos. Scroll right to left over them to see the before after. Wow...
ABC News - Japan Earthquake: before and after
ABC News - Japan Earthquake: before and after
Thanks for posting those. WOW
More prayers for those in Japan, there is a long road ahead.
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