Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-12-2011, 03:28 PM
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Since we went to PBS, you bid what you want and your trips never touch your vacation. You get 3 hr of pay for each vacation day. Just one more reason why the company likes PBS. Touching trips was the standard before PBS.
03-12-2011, 04:03 PM
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In other words, if your vacation paid and credited at 5:15 x 7 = 36:45
ALV 72:00 - 36:45 = 35:15
worth of trips to get a vacation month paid at ALV. A 4 day trip and a 3 day trip and you are over ALV. 7 days of flying in a vacation month. As it stands, you only get one low time 4-days' worth of time off in a vacation month.
This is VERY VERY VERY high on my list to have all events: DH only, VACA, training, RES day, calendar day layover paid at DPM.
(and I would really like to see a 6:00 DPM)
03-12-2011, 04:08 PM
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That being said, I don't see how $$$ has direct bearing on QOL. If someone is living beyond their means, then perhaps more money would makes things easier. However, it's likely that if one lives outside of their means at a lower salary they will likely live outside their means with a higher salary as well.
Don't get me wrong. I want to see the work rules improved too. I would love to be as productive as possible while at work and minimize time away from my family too. I'm currently on a three day DC-9 trip with 4 flying legs and 2 deadhead legs for the entire trip. What a waste of my time and extremely poor productivity! That shouldn't happen. But there is absolutely no way I would choose to continue earning HALF of what I reasonably expected to be earning at this point in my career in exchange for improving the productivity of my trips.
03-12-2011, 04:11 PM
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03-12-2011, 05:14 PM
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Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.
Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.
Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.
03-12-2011, 05:45 PM
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No, but that's not IMHO the major problem with it. Touch drop is great for some, and it rewards the jailhouse lawyers and computer programmer/bidder types (especially with good relative seniority in category) but there's a better way to go IMHO.
Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.
Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.
Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.
Simply increasing the credit hours per day would provide a significantly improved vacation experience for all pilots, regardless of relative seniority in category, and it would also do it with zero need for Good Will Bidding techniques as well.
Vacation should be 5-6 hours per day under the existing system of weeks per YOS. That would turn sucky vacation blocks into awesome vacation blocks for 100% of the pilot group in every category, line holders and reserves, without having to file a PBS appellate brief dissertation as well.
Touch drop helps some more than others, and helps the senior in category (who already get more vacation in the first place) far more than the junior in category. Increasing credit hours per day helps everyone and would be dramatically superior to our current ultra low credit noncation.
03-12-2011, 06:33 PM
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03-12-2011, 07:00 PM
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03-12-2011, 07:02 PM
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03-12-2011, 07:11 PM
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