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Old 03-04-2011, 06:24 AM
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So is it wrong to want DCI to need A LOT more bodies than us? Thus, increasing their CASM just that much more vs if we needed a ton and they didn't then all the more reason to continue the scope smuggling operation?

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You can want that and over time it may work to our advantage. Problem is that all of these increased pilot costs will be pass though costs which will become DAL's burden, not the burden of the third party airline. Since it will be part of the required staffing model, DAL will pay for it. As as a result, that is more money out of DAL's pocket to third party airlines who have contracts and floors to their flying. When flying will be cut, it will not be theirs. No initially that is. Over time yes, but not in the short term.

In the sort term the FTDT will require DCI staffing to skyrocket, and the costs (except for a few at risk operations that have been signed over the last few years and the SKW E-120's) will be passed on to DAL. Many of these contracts will have floors to the allowed flying. How your bargaining agent and DAL cope with this is important. Long term it is good for mainline pilot group and product, but in the short term it may not be packaged that way. DCI CASM will go up significantly, and the company will want to solve that. Of course they could solve it by adding more seats to DCI (spreading the costs out over more seats), but we all know that is a non starter. The DCI costs could be dealt with a few other ways as well. Outside of the box thinking is required.

It is a DAL issues since they signed the contracts. Not knowing what the costs with each DCI ASA are, I would venture to bet that we may get to a staffing point where it may be cheaper to park 50 seat jets than to staff them and fly them. Time will tell.

Point of this diatribe is, to realize that even though it makes DCI more expensive, there is financial blow back to the mainline bottom line. A Catch 22 if you will.
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:45 AM
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Many hours flying night freight in the Beech...she was a formidable and unforgiving beeeotch at times....hoped to use that tailwheel time at some point. Always drooled over the Mother D 3.....visited with the museum peeps about her last summer and got the feeling of apathy from them concerning her. Wad told it would take 50-70 grand to get her in the air again.... It needs to be done and I have an idea to get it going if anyone is interested..... Drop me a PM and I give an outline.... Think this would be a good "come together" moment for Delta Land. May have to overcome some political fences to make it work....
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Old 03-04-2011, 07:57 AM
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Many hours flying night freight in the Beech...she was a formidable and unforgiving beeeotch at times....hoped to use that tailwheel time at some point. Always drooled over the Mother D 3.....visited with the museum peeps about her last summer and got the feeling of apathy from them concerning her. Wad told it would take 50-70 grand to get her in the air again.... It needs to be done and I have an idea to get it going if anyone is interested..... Drop me a PM and I give an outline.... Think this would be a good "come together" moment for Delta Land. May have to overcome some political fences to make it work....

I had an opportunity to ride on Ship 41 many years ago, it was quite a machine. It was so well restored, that it actually pressurized a bit from the ram air... even a factory fresh DC-3 didn't do that. What I recall was that there was a small, politically connected (ex-vp of flt. ops) cadre of pilots that got to fly it. You would always have to contend with that aspect.
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Old 03-04-2011, 08:24 AM
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Yep....unless you forced the issue.....did you know that airplane had it's 75th birthday this past Christmas Eve? Curator said Delta took delivery of her on that date 75 years ago this past year. If true, really missed a golden opportunity to have her flying on her 75 th birthday on the 75 th anniversary of the DC-3..... how cool would that have been?
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:23 AM
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Tough times for DAL stock
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:42 AM
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Originally Posted by scambo1
I think Charlie Sheen is only legal in California. Where I live, we have a task force set up to bust Charlie Sheen labs. Unfortunatlely, some Charlie Sheen is still getting through. When I was at walmart the other day, there was this morbidly obese woman wearing camo with her bra exposed and her hair was really greasy. An obvious multi day Charlie Sheen bender.
Hey........
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by tim123
Tough times for DAL stock
All airline stocks have dropped significantly.

United, US Airways Pace Airline Index Decline to Five-Month Low - Bloomberg

Maybe after these revolutions are over we'll see oil drop to $39/barrel like it did at the beginning of 2009.
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Old 03-04-2011, 09:59 AM
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Dow just plunged 170. Black friday?
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Old 03-04-2011, 10:01 AM
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Dow just plunged 170. Black friday?
Don't be a racist.





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Old 03-04-2011, 10:04 AM
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Buzz, you were way ahead of your time changing your avatar.
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