johnso29

Delta Flight Attendants Sue Airline Alleging Discrimination - Bloomberg

BlueMoon

Because I'm wondering about the here and now and what this spells for the future near future. Also the source listed I had listed current 36 Dc-9's in service.

I do realize you parked many many DC-9's post merger (I JS'ed on them regularly), but what is done has already occurred and it's effect on your seniority list has happened (right? I'm making an assumption here), I'm more curious of the effects of this announcement and it's future effects. That is why I counted only 36. Hell, I wish you had 100+ of them still flying, life would be better for everyone, but unfortunately that isn't the case.

I don't work for DL (not directly at least), but I have a personal interest in the growth of your seniority list.

forgot to bid

Oil's at $102. It's almost a play by play response to whatever Libya is doing with their aircraft at this very moment.

Also, two USAF airmen murdered and two injured at Frankfurt airport. The airmen were based in Britain.
Military: Slain US airmen were based in UK - Yahoo! News

NuGuy

FWIW, the 1998 count of DC-9s, which was probably at or near the peak:

DC-9-10: 16
DC-9-30: 116
DC-9-40: 12
DC-9-50: 35
MD-80: 8

187 DC-9 variants in service.

To think that a paltry number of MD-90s, that don't even match the mission spec (to use my DAL brothers preferred terminology), is any kind of replacement for this segment of the flying is just spin.

While I agree that any airframes at the mainline is a good thing, all this does is move the bar of scope recapture FURTHER from our goal.

Nu

Imapilot2

no it hasn't...does that mean we will furlough...not necessarily but the surplus from these ac being parked is very hard to track when you have so many cards in play....massive training from an up and coming entitlement being one of the big cards....not to mention proposed rest rule changes...implementation times for that....oil .... you get the idea.
When you have so many ac and bases, a few hundred extra pilots isn't a lot. We have more than a thousand at any given time out on sick, military, bypass, long term training....

tsquare

No.. but my father in law.. who is 80, is named Manning... ooooh that's wierd isn't it?

tsquare

That is very sweet in a Kumbaya sort of way, but it does not change the fact that secretaries are making more than people that pay their salaries.

forgot to bid

Source:
Wikipedia & Deltanet Aircraft Fleet Information.

fwiw the Wiki sources are Flight International 20 March 1990 and 29 August 2000. And Wiki shows what the replacement aircraft were for the various fleets that were retired. Guess what replaced the already parked DC9s? CRJ700, CRJ900, E170/175 and DC95.

tsquare

No.. it was a rant I thought better of...

acl65pilot

It is not meant to be sweet, it is fact. They made less than a mainline FO did until about five or so years ago, then we took it in the shorts. We agreed to it and signed it. They work under a contract and are in a union with collective bargaining rights. Fact is that the staff at national (in Herndon and working as support for the 38 airlines that are part of ALPA) is down over 100 people over the last ten years.

Many times you will see one admin working for three airlines. Take for example the one that works for C44. In that office C44, ASA's MEC and ATN's MEC are co-located using the same staff member. She does a ton of work. Not that, this matters but, the notion that these people sit around and do nothing is quite a misnomer. Also, when you look at what they make, understand the reporting requirements and what the number represents. It is not just salary. Again, not to talk your issues away, but to explain it.

Simple fact is that, we took cuts, their union negotiated their deals with National, and National signed them. That does not preclude changes to the CBA when their agreements become amendable. In fact, I have no idea what their agreements state. What I do know is, we as a piloting industry took cuts, which sucked. What happened to them involved cuts but of a different animal.

What I see wrt to National's staffing and real estate, is them cutting a ton of office space in NW DC, and cutting the office staff by almost 25%. I deduce that this means we are doing more with less, because frankly the number of ALPA members has not dropped by 25% over the same period.