Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
03-01-2011, 03:31 PM
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03-01-2011, 03:32 PM
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ok did something change here on calling in well. I got strep and called in sick for my next trip, she (DAL scheduler)just said that after that trip is over that I need to call again before the next trip to let them know if I am still sick, or better. Either way I need to call. ***? It has always been one call when sick and one call when well. Is it going to be like this now?
03-01-2011, 03:38 PM
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ok did something change here on calling in well. I got strep and called in sick for my next trip, she (DAL scheduler)just said that after that trip is over that I need to call again before the next trip to let them know if I am still sick, or better. Either way I need to call. ***? It has always been one call when sick and one call when well. Is it going to be like this now?
Its common for them to just put "SICK" on your schedule for a single trip duration or a single block of reserve on-call days.
Beyond that, I think they would like you to call them or they can call you if they want to check your status but I don't think you're under any obligations to report for duty until you've reported in well and that little "OK" appears on your schedule.
03-01-2011, 03:40 PM
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I hope you are right, I don't want to start calling in for every trip while I am sick. I know it sounds small but I know when I am go to go and then I let them know. If I have a few day trips I am not calling in for each trip. I left those days at the commuters behind and don't want them back.
03-01-2011, 03:43 PM
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They might like it to be that way, but I don't think there's any contractual obligation to call them and tell them "I am still sick".
Its common for them to just put "SICK" on your schedule for a single trip duration or a single block of reserve on-call days.
Beyond that, I think they would like you to call them or they can call you if they want to check your status but I don't think you're under any obligations to report for duty until you've reported in well and that little "OK" appears on your schedule.
Its common for them to just put "SICK" on your schedule for a single trip duration or a single block of reserve on-call days.
Beyond that, I think they would like you to call them or they can call you if they want to check your status but I don't think you're under any obligations to report for duty until you've reported in well and that little "OK" appears on your schedule.
That's good to hear....I just have never heard any scheduler say that before let alone repeat it three times?
03-01-2011, 04:20 PM
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I personally dont know if brutal is the right word. Since it is twice as much as domestic, unreasonable (in terms of being rested) comes to mind.
Here is what I think is reasonable:
In my category, there is a block of hours in which all the launches occur, S/Cs should cover that for commuters who couldnt make it. Then you have ramp dance issues in which the pilots on the trip can time out, S/Cs should cover that. Then you have the shortrange turnback issues, S/Cs should cover that. Once the flight is (lets say) 3 hours into the leg, I doubt that any diversion scenario is going to return to the point of departure, S/Cs shouldn't be covering that.
S/C periods start about 3 hours prior to our first sign in. Taking into account our 2 hour commute on the front end of S/C, I think that this is reasonable because we are covering the on-time departure.
So, in my category, IMO S/C could be 10 hours and that would cover 99% of all potential scenarios.
As a commuter, when I commute to S/C, I am okay with the company putting me on rest early so I can do back to back shortcalls. That way I have fewer commutes...this is far far preferable to me, (others may feel different) because what normally happens is my commuter flight lands back home and as I am driving home, I get the "you are on S/C tomorrow at 0800" call. This is where the word brutal comes in.
Commuting to reserve sucks, but in some categories, like mine, you cannot guarantee a line every month.
Here is what I think is reasonable:
In my category, there is a block of hours in which all the launches occur, S/Cs should cover that for commuters who couldnt make it. Then you have ramp dance issues in which the pilots on the trip can time out, S/Cs should cover that. Then you have the shortrange turnback issues, S/Cs should cover that. Once the flight is (lets say) 3 hours into the leg, I doubt that any diversion scenario is going to return to the point of departure, S/Cs shouldn't be covering that.
S/C periods start about 3 hours prior to our first sign in. Taking into account our 2 hour commute on the front end of S/C, I think that this is reasonable because we are covering the on-time departure.
So, in my category, IMO S/C could be 10 hours and that would cover 99% of all potential scenarios.
As a commuter, when I commute to S/C, I am okay with the company putting me on rest early so I can do back to back shortcalls. That way I have fewer commutes...this is far far preferable to me, (others may feel different) because what normally happens is my commuter flight lands back home and as I am driving home, I get the "you are on S/C tomorrow at 0800" call. This is where the word brutal comes in.
Commuting to reserve sucks, but in some categories, like mine, you cannot guarantee a line every month.
On 24 SC you need manage rest since you can go out for a Flag Dispatched flight at any time.
It can be difficult, no doubt about it.
03-01-2011, 04:33 PM
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Interesting video.
Better if you click thru to YouTube and then watch it full screen.
Better if you click thru to YouTube and then watch it full screen.
03-01-2011, 04:49 PM
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I'm tired of hearing ALPA tell me that the number of DCI air frames are decreasing. Every single recent announcement has been negative recently. We are parking the DC-9's, MD-90's are not arriving as fast as anticipated, no hiring in 2011, Republic getting 8 E170's painted in Delta colors , Skywest getting 4 more CRJ 700's in Delta colors, Compass getting 12 170's in Delta colors, and the LGA/DCA swap is probably dead. Make no mistake about it (Lee Moak's favorite phrase). THE REST OF THE DC-9 FLEET IS BEING REPLACED BY THREE DIFFERENT DELTA CONNECTION CARRIERS THUS RESULTING IN LOST MAINLINE DELTA JOBS. There is nothing we can do about it, but we can at least acknowledge the fact that our scope is the worst in the industry and it is still under attack. Our seniority list is going to shrink. We probably will not furlough as we will have a lot of pilots retiring in the next few years, but there will be no movement for those of us at the bottom. It's not a coincidence that Delta announced 24 new 70 seat airframes around the same time as announcing the remaining 30 DC-9's retiring early. I love flying at Delta and I'm grateful to have a job, but getting off reserve and making more than $80,000/year would be nice. I spend a lot of time away from home commuting to reserve. I can't hold a line anywhere so for me reserve is not a choice.
03-01-2011, 04:54 PM
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I'll second that.
03-01-2011, 04:56 PM
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Yeah, I didn't understand that one either...hopefully I missed the humor/sarcasm...
Originally Posted by siemprerojo
Yeah I certainly didn't want to have to fly the dc-9 as my first captain job and my spouse would much rather hang out at compass and not have to fly that antique!
Originally Posted by siemprerojo
Yeah I certainly didn't want to have to fly the dc-9 as my first captain job and my spouse would much rather hang out at compass and not have to fly that antique!
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