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Old 03-01-2011, 12:56 PM
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Yeah, I didn't understand that one either...hopefully I missed the humor/sarcasm...

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Yeah I certainly didn't want to have to fly the dc-9 as my first captain job and my spouse would much rather hang out at compass and not have to fly that antique!

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Old 03-01-2011, 01:00 PM
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Excuse me?

coming from the dc9 celebrity......cq
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CPZ175
The link seems to have disappeared. I have yet to hear anything official from our company. Bittersweet news if true---hopefully it doesn't result in any net gains of airframes to the outsourced side of things....

With all the 50 seaters being parked, it won't. But it will increase the number of large RJ's. We are rapidly approaching the 255 cap.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by siemprerojo
Yeah I certainly didn't want to have to fly the dc-9 as my first captain job and my spouse would much rather hang out at compass and not have to fly that antique!
Looks like management is panicking and rushing to max out our generous scope prior to openers so the baseline is higher for them in the event our MEC/NC actually takes a touch stand on scope reversal. Good thing they are going to subsidize a pilot labor trashing company with firm orders for new larger RJ's with no place to put them just as our 9's are going away and our chief is putting his "game face" on.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Imapilot2
coming from the dc9 celebrity......cq
Hey! How is the maddog treating ya?

What's cq?
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
Looks like management is panicking and rushing to max out our generous scope prior to openers so the baseline is higher for them in the event our MEC/NC actually takes a touch stand on scope reversal. Good thing they are going to subsidize a pilot labor trashing company with firm orders for new larger RJ's with no place to put them just as our 9's are going away and our chief is putting his "game face" on.
From all of us at "pilot labor trashing company(s)", I hope your MEC does take a much tougher stance on scope. That goes for all Major/LCC MECs. The regional lifestyle has got to go.....
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by CPZ175
From all of us at "pilot labor trashing company(s)", I hope your MEC does take a much tougher stance on scope. That goes for all Major/LCC MECs. The regional lifestyle has got to go.....
UMMM!?!? Last I checked you guys have unions too!!! Why not improve the regional lifestyle though your MEC too?!? Take a stand!
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:29 PM
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UMMM!?!? Last I checked you guys have unions too!!! Why not improve the regional lifestyle though your MEC too?!? Take a stand!
To get and keep a contract comparable to mainline at a regional we would have to negotiate a scope contract with the mainline to make sure we end the whipsaw ability. That would not go over well, think RJDC. The only hope for the profession is that mainline guys save their own jobs, so that we can come in as new hires. The only people who have control over scope and wages for RJ's is mainline pilots.
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Old 03-01-2011, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by BigGuns
UMMM!?!? Last I checked you guys have unions too!!! Why not improve the regional lifestyle though your MEC too?!? Take a stand!
We cant. As soon as any regional stands up and gains a decent contract they are torn apart and the flying given to a new start up. Comair, expressjet, and air whiskey are all examples of this.

The regionals are sub-contractors and as long as they are such they will not be able to make any gains in QOL and pay. As soon as a gain is made the job is taken away. Mainline contracts allow sub-contracting and most mainline hiring departments want 121 PIC time to get hired. Its a nasty cycle that can only improve with mainline bringing these airplanes back in house.

I think you will find most regional pilots want the mainline guys to tighten scope. Especially the compass guys with flow through. We understand that when the dc-9's are parked and more EMB brought online it only lengthens the time we will spend at compass. Your interest are our interest. One of the big aspects of the flow that was never talked about.
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Old 03-01-2011, 02:15 PM
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A question for one of the experts out there. I haven't been able to find an answer in my search through the contract.

But I got pulled off a trip for an FO to be trained, which was good by me because I am delighted to just sit at home. But they gave me another four day a few hours later.

My timecard shows me getting paid for both trips. Is that actually correct? Do I really get paid for both trips? I've been whining to my wife about the new trip for the last hour b/c it ends six hours later than the original one, but if I get 23:26 of additional pay then all would be good.

Thanks in advance.
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