Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-28-2011, 04:50 AM
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Alpha;
Seriously, are you legit? Questioning whether someone has the guts? What guts do you think it takes?
1. Ask RA so he can say no thereby galvanizing the pilots.
2. The MEC Chair is elected so he can represent the pilots from a jail cell if necessary... Not so he can smoke cigars with Congress people. Ditto for The ALPA prez. The fact that you and they see it differently is part of the problem.
I wish our MEC had the guts to try HARD to get us a midcontract raise to SWA parity. That would set up UCAL for greatness and then a better raise for DAL pilots in 2012.
You are such an apologist I just dont think you have any idea how out of touch you really are.
Seriously, are you legit? Questioning whether someone has the guts? What guts do you think it takes?
1. Ask RA so he can say no thereby galvanizing the pilots.
2. The MEC Chair is elected so he can represent the pilots from a jail cell if necessary... Not so he can smoke cigars with Congress people. Ditto for The ALPA prez. The fact that you and they see it differently is part of the problem.
I wish our MEC had the guts to try HARD to get us a midcontract raise to SWA parity. That would set up UCAL for greatness and then a better raise for DAL pilots in 2012.
You are such an apologist I just dont think you have any idea how out of touch you really are.
This opportunity can provide:
1. New Dalpa leadership can shock its members with by showing some brass ones. Something most of us have not seen in a LONG time, as evidenced by all the union apologists on this thread who are always trying to manage expectations.
2. Forces RA to come up with a quotable response that will be immortalized on 12000 morale stickers, galvanizing the pilot group towards our common PWA 2012 goals.
3. Educates a very large group of pilots that are "content" and ignorant of what the rest of the industry is doing. I still fly with guys who think SWA makes less than us, and B6 guys get fired after 5 years; making $80K in the left seat of an Airbus. Their response to facts...." well, don't believe everything you read on the internet..."
Unbelievable, I know, but unfortunately reality for some who are armed with a vote.
02-28-2011, 05:11 AM
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100% of pilots polled believe 1 NYC Chief Pilot is responsible for 20% of Delta's decline in D-0. The stories about him may have been exaggerated with each retelling, but they've certainly taken hold.
Every other operator I've flown for wanted beacon on as part of the pushback checklist when READY to push. Waiting for actual push, no wait, ok to push, tail south, I mean north, hey Delta the road is blocked now, oh sorry man - forgot about you, wait, hold, push, clearance costs this airline D-0. It also results in the "late completion of checklist" code since the gate has no idea what you are waiting on. I've been a pilot for 29 years and can't figure out when exactly to turn the beacon on. This inability has resulted in my pre-brief expressing my limitations to the Captain, "hey Boss, your switch."
The other problem I've never understood is how sometimes, there is someone working ramp who simply can't communicate and can't remember a tail number, or a sequence. If any operational position in the company is critical to on time performance, it is the ramp controller. The candidates for that job should be ex-professional card counters.
I know the airline does not want times going over block and actually having to pay the crews for working airplanes full of people, but they can't have it both ways.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 02-28-2011 at 05:51 AM.
02-28-2011, 05:17 AM
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02-28-2011, 05:20 AM
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Why are you guys getting so spun up over D-0? How many times has a flight ever been delayed because of us? It is not your job to go throw luggage... seat passengers... etc etc... why worry about it? The ONLY thing of concern that I can personally think of that might be of concern would be non revs... but other than that.. wot, me worry? When the jet is ready, we will turn on the light, and off we go.
02-28-2011, 05:27 AM
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Alpha;
Seriously, are you legit? Questioning whether someone has the guts? What guts do you think it takes?
1. Ask RA so he can say no thereby galvanizing the pilots.
2. The MEC Chair is elected so he can represent the pilots from a jail cell if necessary... Not so he can smoke cigars with Congress people. Ditto for The ALPA prez. The fact that you and they see it differently is part of the problem.
I wish our MEC had the guts to try HARD to get us a midcontract raise to SWA parity. That would set up UCAL for greatness and then a better raise for DAL pilots in 2012.
Seriously, are you legit? Questioning whether someone has the guts? What guts do you think it takes?
1. Ask RA so he can say no thereby galvanizing the pilots.
2. The MEC Chair is elected so he can represent the pilots from a jail cell if necessary... Not so he can smoke cigars with Congress people. Ditto for The ALPA prez. The fact that you and they see it differently is part of the problem.
I wish our MEC had the guts to try HARD to get us a midcontract raise to SWA parity. That would set up UCAL for greatness and then a better raise for DAL pilots in 2012.
We have a bargaining agent who represents us. We do not have the legal ability to negotiate except for through our exclusive agent.
A better strategy (if you want to be effective and not just engage in web board taunts) is to start targeting those within your representative's structure who are not representing you as you would like. Starting with communication and potentially ending with a recall attempt.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 02-28-2011 at 05:53 AM.
02-28-2011, 05:36 AM
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A little point about letting frustration boil over into negotiating with Delta management individually (even if not entirely serious).
We have a bargaining agent who represents us. We do not have the legal ability to negotiate except for through our exclusive agent.
A better strategy (if you want to be effective and not just engage in web board taunts) is to start targeting those within your representative's structure who are not representing you as you would like.
We have a bargaining agent who represents us. We do not have the legal ability to negotiate except for through our exclusive agent.
A better strategy (if you want to be effective and not just engage in web board taunts) is to start targeting those within your representative's structure who are not representing you as you would like.
Bar;
You are literally correct.
Just dont start saying "Quantas" over and over and "Wheel of Fortune" You are a savant, I just dont want to find out you are also autistic.
02-28-2011, 05:47 AM
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I'm definitely not wearing underwear. Too tight. Underwear at K Mart, 400 Oak Street, Cincinnati. Boxer shorts, KMart.
02-28-2011, 06:00 AM
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On a more serious note, how much lower does anyone think DAL stock can go? It is fast approaching its 52 week low.
02-28-2011, 06:06 AM
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Wow! Anyone see the new DPA video to promote returning authorization cards?
YouTube - DPA - Take A Chance On Me
The message seems to be that they'll do their very best if we put them to the test!
YouTube - DPA - Take A Chance On Me
The message seems to be that they'll do their very best if we put them to the test!
02-28-2011, 06:49 AM
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