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Old 02-20-2011, 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy
Call me crazy, I really liked the last Northwest livery. The metallic silver is very nice. In fact, I wish Delta would keep the current livery, but change the pale boring white to the NWA metallic silver.
OK, you're crazy.
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Old 02-20-2011, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyingViking
Is it true that they put the Delta logo that high up in order to fit "connection" underneath it?
No that's the dedicated real estate for that fake airline "skyteam" air group nonsense.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
When are the PCS runs? I thought it was 7am, noon, and 6pm Mecca time.

Are swap-with-the-pot requests processed at these same times? I got a WS during the early PCS run, but my swap wasn't even processed. Am I missing something?

Do they always run right at the scheduled times, or does it vary day to day? I figured the noon run would have happened by now, but it's 12:35 here in ATL.

Thanks in advance

They must have ran them because I was trying a Swap with the pot, & the trips are gone. I didn't get either of them.
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Old 02-20-2011, 11:30 AM
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you can find out by pulling up your swap request and then selecting "deny" on the bottom, I think it is F4, it will tell you when the swap was ran and why you did not get it.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by iFlyer
...to join SkyTeam Alliance
I think there is more to the story than getting them to just join the SkyTeam Alliance. Could they be bought and operated independently within the AF/KLM group like KLM has been since AF bought them? When we hire Goldman Sachs as an advisor, there is more going on than a JV and getting another airline to join the Alliance.
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by RockyBoy
I think there is more to the story than getting them to just join the SkyTeam Alliance. Could they be bought and operated independently within the AF/KLM group like KLM has been since AF bought them? When we hire Goldman Sachs as an advisor, there is more going on than a JV and getting another airline to join the Alliance.
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?
I just re-read the first post on this topic, and saw that it is Virgin Atlantic, not Virgin America. I'm a little relieved, as I was envisioning this as an attack on domestic narrowbody flying, especially out west.

Still not sure about a JV with Virgin Atlantic. I guess the idea would be to gain more of a presence in London???
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?
Bloomberg reported it this morning.

Air France, Delta Consider Bid for Virgin Atlantic, Times Says - Bloomberg
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Old 02-20-2011, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
I just re-read the first post on this topic, and saw that it is Virgin Atlantic, not Virgin America. I'm a little relieved, as I was envisioning this as an attack on domestic narrowbody flying, especially out west.

Still not sure about a JV with Virgin Atlantic. I guess the idea would be to gain more of a presence in London???
It is to compete against the AA/BA JV that was approved. It's been in the news for awhile, but not quite like it was worded this morning. I was thinking to see a JV, but when we hire Goldman there is more than a JV going on.
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Originally Posted by LeineLodge
If what you're hinting at is even possible, we should be very concerned. Where is this posted that Delta/AF/KLM are looking at VA? I'd like to read a little more about this?

Is there a hole in our scope section that would/could allow this situation or would DALPA have to sign off on a VA JV/Codeshare?
Most scope protection is not worth the paper it's written on, unfortunately we seem to be always in a position of trying to decide what works or does not work...what may be good now, may go poorly against us in the future.
All Delta flying should be done by Delta pilots, how much are we going to lose with a VA JV.
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