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02-18-2011, 11:48 PM
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02-19-2011, 02:49 AM
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How could it not hurt the company. I did it all the time. Bid a moveup the first two weeks and then two weeks of reserve. Fly your time the first two weeks and the company could hardly use you on your reserve days. My personal favorite was to downbid to a week of reserve that had 7 x days. You would get 16:40 minutes pay for doing nothing!
1) partial month move-ups, and
2) reserve weeks packed with X-days
When you bid a partial month move-up, your reserve obligation for half a month was half the monthly cap, regardless of how many hours you flew in the regular line half. The only effect was the slight unavailability in the first few days due to 30n7.
They eliminated the clear windfall on the week of reserve with 7 x-days when we agreed to permit the pro-ration of x-days on less than full lines.
There are a lot of places in the contract guys got paid more to work less which substantially added bodies; partial month move ups was not one of them, and its elimination was the primary reason I voted NO on C2K.
02-19-2011, 03:48 AM
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02-19-2011, 05:29 AM
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sailing, you're confusing two different issues.
1) partial month move-ups, and
2) reserve weeks packed with X-days
When you bid a partial month move-up, your reserve obligation for half a month was half the monthly cap, regardless of how many hours you flew in the regular line half. The only effect was the slight unavailability in the first few days due to 30n7.
They eliminated the clear windfall on the week of reserve with 7 x-days when we agreed to permit the pro-ration of x-days on less than full lines.
There are a lot of places in the contract guys got paid more to work less which substantially added bodies; partial month move ups was not one of them, and its elimination was the primary reason I voted NO on C2K.
1) partial month move-ups, and
2) reserve weeks packed with X-days
When you bid a partial month move-up, your reserve obligation for half a month was half the monthly cap, regardless of how many hours you flew in the regular line half. The only effect was the slight unavailability in the first few days due to 30n7.
They eliminated the clear windfall on the week of reserve with 7 x-days when we agreed to permit the pro-ration of x-days on less than full lines.
There are a lot of places in the contract guys got paid more to work less which substantially added bodies; partial month move ups was not one of them, and its elimination was the primary reason I voted NO on C2K.
02-19-2011, 05:37 AM
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Few did better than I did with partial month moveups, but lets get real--they were unstainable, highly costly, and were approaching the realm of a scam. I remember getting paid 88 hours for flying 10 days! Nice work if you can get it, but I don't recall a constitutional amendment entitling me to it.
This means you were EXTREMELY efficient from DAL's point of view in the 1st half, and just as efficient as any other reserve in the 2nd half. Now, if you didn't fly the back half because of reserve move-ups with 5-6 x-days in each week, as I've mentioned previously, that is a different issue and I was in favor of eliminating that.
This would be no different if you flew 100 hard hours one month, and flew reserve the next and DAL didn't use you. Net effect: 170 hr of pay, and working ~20 days in two months.
02-19-2011, 05:56 AM
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Please explain how they were unsustainable. You may have gotten 88 hrs for 10 days, but that means you likely flew 53 hard "real" hours in the 15 days you were in a regular line, and were available for use by DAL for an additional 35 hours in the remaining 15 days on reserve. You were just as available as anyone else, but DAL didn't use you.
This means you were EXTREMELY efficient from DAL's point of view in the 1st half, and just as efficient as any other reserve in the 2nd half. Now, if you didn't fly the back half because of reserve move-ups with 5-6 x-days in each week, as I've mentioned previously, that is a different issue and I was in favor of eliminating that.
This would be no different if you flew 100 hard hours one month, and flew reserve the next and DAL didn't use you. Net effect: 170 hr of pay, and working ~20 days in two months.
This means you were EXTREMELY efficient from DAL's point of view in the 1st half, and just as efficient as any other reserve in the 2nd half. Now, if you didn't fly the back half because of reserve move-ups with 5-6 x-days in each week, as I've mentioned previously, that is a different issue and I was in favor of eliminating that.
This would be no different if you flew 100 hard hours one month, and flew reserve the next and DAL didn't use you. Net effect: 170 hr of pay, and working ~20 days in two months.
PG, did you forget to log off? Two agreements in one day...cats and dogs living together, real wrath of God type stuff.
02-19-2011, 10:01 AM
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Anyone know what the code of MMC in iCrew is? I can't find it. I think it has to do w/ OE.
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02-19-2011, 10:24 AM
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02-19-2011, 05:22 PM
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Hmmmmm...
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It's crickets, for anyone who's wondering.
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(edit.. HUGE pic. whoops.)
It's crickets, for anyone who's wondering.
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02-19-2011, 05:52 PM
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Everyone is currently speechless over the folks going full retard on the republic thread.
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