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02-14-2011, 12:01 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by Racer X

Yup. Many people feel the same way.

Problem is that many forgot or many were not even here or on the street to remember.

I wont names any slow names.

And it is in no way bad to understand this. You're not really part of a "family" if you can be furloughed if there's too many of you at the table. Or fired if you make the rest of the family mad. Or have your future membership in the family terminated in bankruptcy.

I remember when Dave Garrett was CEO at Delta. That was the culture then. He was a giant in the industry, and a real innovator with regard to employee relations. That died with the next CEO.

It's understandable to long for those days, but it's not rational to pretend they still exist.

Carl

02-14-2011, 12:04 PM

#59502

shiznit

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Originally Posted by orvil

I got rid of my ALPA magazine subscription a while ago. Someone just showed me the cover. Has anyone got an airsickness bag handy?

I don't get it.

Its a trade publication, everybody I know that gets one in their own business thinks they are pretty lame also, but there is usually a piece of info or two worth knowing about.

02-14-2011, 12:05 PM

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tsquare

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

You were not even there, and your conclusion is that the captain was a toolbag.

We'll always have problems here if we continue to believe second hand accounts that "prove" our preconceived stereotypes of each other.

Carl

You are right, I wasn't there. But I believe her story. Not just because he was a 747 captain.. but because of the other parts that were apparently playing out. But I will amend my post to read as follows: the captain was allegedly a toolbag.

Happy?

02-14-2011, 12:06 PM

#59504

Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquare

For the most part I agree with you. But the culture that you seem to disdain is a little more genteel on the fDAL side, and that is my beef with this particular thread creep. Personally.. and I have come full circle with this... I prefer it stay the way it was at fDAL.

If you mean the way we employees treat each other, I agree with you.

But if you mean that we need to cave-in to management's "me too" issue in order to ensure that other employee groups don't hate us, that's where we differ. You're not really saying that are you?

Carl

02-14-2011, 12:08 PM

#59505

tsquare

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Originally Posted by Carl Spackler

Of course not. But as I said to Sink (I think) If you help them understand, they might be more understanding.....

02-14-2011, 12:10 PM

#59506

tsquare

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Originally Posted by shiznit

I don't get it.

Its a trade publication, everybody I know that gets one in their own business thinks they are pretty lame also, but there is usually a piece of info or two worth knowing about.

The obits.... other than that... not really.

02-14-2011, 12:17 PM

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Carl Spackler

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Yeah I guess that your FO couldn''t get the aircraft on the ground without the great and powerful Carl... besides, you totally miss the point.

And I miss the point?

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Originally Posted by tsquare

Besides what relevance would her feelings about that have anyway? If you hurt your back helping her out, should she come to your house and clean your toilets for free? What are you looking for here?

Never asked about what she should do for me after an injury. I only asked how she would feel. I asked that to make sure women understand the point that there can sometimes be bad results from their decision to pack in a way they cannot manage.

Personal responsibility. Pass it on.

Carl