Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-10-2011, 07:22 AM
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A few problems with this picture. The beard interferes with the oxygen mask. NewK's signature is not on the cover page of the volume 1. Noone is wearing a hat. The old guy has his arm around the young chick. No underboob.
Other than that, decent CRM.
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02-10-2011, 07:38 AM
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02-10-2011, 07:48 AM
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B-737 Replacement
Boeing: "We're gonna do a new airplane."
Boeing CEO Jim McNerney: "We're gonna do a new airplane" (Update1) - FlightBlogger - Aviation News, Commentary and Analysis
"What we've seen so far is Airbus focused on their current customer base, which has shown some vulnerability to the CSeries. That doesn't mean that as they get deeper in the development they're not going to approach our customer base. I think they will. The NEO, on paper closes, the value gap that we have enjoyed on a typical cash on cash analysis, we tend to do better. And I think part of the rationale of the neo is to close that gap. Now, will that put some pressure on our margins. Yes. Maybe, but they've got to complete the development. We're gonna do a new airplane. We're not done evaluating this whole situation yet, but our current bias is to not re-engine, is to move to an all-new airplane at the end of the decade, beginning of the next decade.
"It's our judgment that our customers will wait for us, rather than move to an airplane that will obsolete itself when they do a new airplane. I understand why they're doing it, we haven't seen the need for it yet. I feel pretty comfortable we can defend our customer base both because they're not going ahead of us, they're catching up to us and because we're going to be doing a new airplane that will go beyond the capability of what the neo can do. I feel very good about our position there."
Boeing CEO Jim McNerney: "We're gonna do a new airplane" (Update1) - FlightBlogger - Aviation News, Commentary and Analysis
"What we've seen so far is Airbus focused on their current customer base, which has shown some vulnerability to the CSeries. That doesn't mean that as they get deeper in the development they're not going to approach our customer base. I think they will. The NEO, on paper closes, the value gap that we have enjoyed on a typical cash on cash analysis, we tend to do better. And I think part of the rationale of the neo is to close that gap. Now, will that put some pressure on our margins. Yes. Maybe, but they've got to complete the development. We're gonna do a new airplane. We're not done evaluating this whole situation yet, but our current bias is to not re-engine, is to move to an all-new airplane at the end of the decade, beginning of the next decade.
"It's our judgment that our customers will wait for us, rather than move to an airplane that will obsolete itself when they do a new airplane. I understand why they're doing it, we haven't seen the need for it yet. I feel pretty comfortable we can defend our customer base both because they're not going ahead of us, they're catching up to us and because we're going to be doing a new airplane that will go beyond the capability of what the neo can do. I feel very good about our position there."
02-10-2011, 08:02 AM
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Yes, I remember that - but American was allowed to strike by the NMB, it was the President who used the PEB to get them back to the table. The PEB only allows one 30 day postponement of the strike. If APA wanted to strike again, they only had to wait 30 days.
I'm not going to get into politics - I think that's against the TOS of this board.
I would wager that the current administration is pro-labor, you only have to look at all the help the FAs (and the IAM) are getting in trying to organize at Delta.
I'm not going to get into politics - I think that's against the TOS of this board.
I would wager that the current administration is pro-labor, you only have to look at all the help the FAs (and the IAM) are getting in trying to organize at Delta.
Sorry for the boring history lesson.
Ferd
02-10-2011, 08:07 AM
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Yes, I remember that - but American was allowed to strike by the NMB, it was the President who used the PEB to get them back to the table. The PEB only allows one 30 day postponement of the strike. If APA wanted to strike again, they only had to wait 30 days.
I'm not going to get into politics - I think that's against the TOS of this board.
I would wager that the current administration is pro-labor, you only have to look at all the help the FAs (and the IAM) are getting in trying to organize at Delta.
I'm not going to get into politics - I think that's against the TOS of this board.
I would wager that the current administration is pro-labor, you only have to look at all the help the FAs (and the IAM) are getting in trying to organize at Delta.
Yes you are correct that the current make up of the NLRB is pro labor, but that is pro labor organizing, which means more dues money which translates into more money in a certain party's coffers. I submit to you that even pro labor presidents are not going to release a major airline labor group to strike, regardless of party affiliation or political leanings.
02-10-2011, 08:30 AM
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I was living in Dallas during our strike. On one of our picketing days, the APA prez came over to show support (lots of AA and Delta guys walked with us). Anyway, we were all amazed that this guy told us that the APA asked Clinton to put them back to work. Kind of a dumb thing to tell a bunch of guys actively on strike. We weren't as big as AA but we did have a monopoly in the upper Midwest and Clinton didn't put us back to work.
Sorry for the boring history lesson.
Ferd
Sorry for the boring history lesson.
Ferd
02-10-2011, 08:44 AM
veut gagner à la loterie
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02-10-2011, 08:55 AM
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Boeing: "We're gonna do a new airplane."
Boeing CEO Jim McNerney: "We're gonna do a new airplane" (Update1) - FlightBlogger - Aviation News, Commentary and Analysis
"What we've seen so far is Airbus focused on their current customer base, which has shown some vulnerability to the CSeries. That doesn't mean that as they get deeper in the development they're not going to approach our customer base. I think they will. The NEO, on paper closes, the value gap that we have enjoyed on a typical cash on cash analysis, we tend to do better. And I think part of the rationale of the neo is to close that gap. Now, will that put some pressure on our margins. Yes. Maybe, but they've got to complete the development. We're gonna do a new airplane. We're not done evaluating this whole situation yet, but our current bias is to not re-engine, is to move to an all-new airplane at the end of the decade, beginning of the next decade.
"It's our judgment that our customers will wait for us indefinitely because after all we're Boeing, rather than move to an airplane that will obsolete itself when they do a new airplane. I understand why they're doing it because all of our customers keep begging us for a new narrow body, but we haven't seen the need for it yet because after the 777 we went tone deaf. I feel pretty comfortable we can defend our customer base both because they're not going ahead of us, they're catching up to us and because we're going to be doing a new airplane that will go beyond the capability of what the neo can do. I feel very good about our position there but I haven't checked with our customers, we try not to do that anymore these days. Too much complaining, they're annoying.."
Boeing CEO Jim McNerney: "We're gonna do a new airplane" (Update1) - FlightBlogger - Aviation News, Commentary and Analysis
"What we've seen so far is Airbus focused on their current customer base, which has shown some vulnerability to the CSeries. That doesn't mean that as they get deeper in the development they're not going to approach our customer base. I think they will. The NEO, on paper closes, the value gap that we have enjoyed on a typical cash on cash analysis, we tend to do better. And I think part of the rationale of the neo is to close that gap. Now, will that put some pressure on our margins. Yes. Maybe, but they've got to complete the development. We're gonna do a new airplane. We're not done evaluating this whole situation yet, but our current bias is to not re-engine, is to move to an all-new airplane at the end of the decade, beginning of the next decade.
"It's our judgment that our customers will wait for us indefinitely because after all we're Boeing, rather than move to an airplane that will obsolete itself when they do a new airplane. I understand why they're doing it because all of our customers keep begging us for a new narrow body, but we haven't seen the need for it yet because after the 777 we went tone deaf. I feel pretty comfortable we can defend our customer base both because they're not going ahead of us, they're catching up to us and because we're going to be doing a new airplane that will go beyond the capability of what the neo can do. I feel very good about our position there but I haven't checked with our customers, we try not to do that anymore these days. Too much complaining, they're annoying.."
What we need is this thing:
Funny how you just can't kill the DC-9.
02-10-2011, 09:11 AM
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CQ Question
I am looking for a hint from the DC-9 guys that have already been to CQ this year (2011). Is there any place you can review the Exterior Preflight slides? I checked on the DC9 page but no joy. Thanks in advance.
02-10-2011, 09:39 AM
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DC9 fuselage made in China...check
New wing designed in Russia..check
RJ motors instead of JT-8s...check
what could go wrong ;-)
Cheers
George
P.S. they claim 2/3 of the content is sourced from the US...
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