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02-04-2011, 04:55 PM
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Good analysis except you overlook that it is a roughly 1/3 reduction in Captain seats for that staffing, and all junior Capt seats. Those are going to DCI, and we have more long term F/O's. Good news if you are senior already and eligible for those new WB A's, sucks if you wanted to be a junior NB Captain. How much longer to a first time A position now?
02-04-2011, 05:03 PM
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And this wasn't necessarily in his testimony... but don't forget about labeling our potential strike a "murder/suicide"... and then the whole turning the other employees against us thing. I could never have imagined that anyone could have such a complete lack of respect for what we do.
That was a very dark time and I'm glad it's behind us. The attitude towards us by the other employees was absolutely appalling. By far the worst thing I think I've ever seen in all of my career. I hope none of us ever see anything like that again. EVER.
02-04-2011, 05:07 PM
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The best job protection is NOT no-furlough clauses not worth the paper they're written on. The best furlough protection are aircraft OPERATED by the mainline and FLOWN by Delta pilots, no matter the size. EVERY seat is worthwile, NOT just the ones you feel "are worth it". Every seat is worth it.
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CMR had 113 RJs in '08 in the next 18 months they'll be down to something like 44. No furloughs?
I agree that every seat is worthwhile, but I suspect that the parking of so many aircraft would result in furloughs, whether they were flown by mainline or not.
02-04-2011, 05:12 PM
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02-04-2011, 05:13 PM
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02-04-2011, 05:20 PM
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02-04-2011, 05:29 PM
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Just a friendly reminder to all the drooling exRJ drivers out there.. The rates a great, but the rules are a million times more important. You can negotiate the rates, but once you loose the rules they are very hard to get back.
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
02-04-2011, 05:33 PM
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Just a friendly reminder to all the drooling exRJ drivers out there.. The rates a great, but the rules are a million times more important. You can negotiate the rates, but once you loose the rules they are very hard to get back.
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
02-04-2011, 05:40 PM
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Just a friendly reminder to all the drooling exRJ drivers out there.. The rates a great, but the rules are a million times more important. You can negotiate the rates, but once you loose the rules they are very hard to get back.
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
The company will try to play the game of modest increase in rates lowering the rules - be mindful of that.
And if you think if we'd ever get these rates back - think WE should and WE can.
It will take a fight, which will only be harder if too many of us feel "how lucky they are to finally make it to the majors!"
I think we should all be prep'ed for a couple of NO's on the first TA's and maybe a little walking off the job.
P.S. Sorry, overheard an inmature conversation in a crew room and had to vent..
02-04-2011, 05:45 PM
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