Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
02-03-2011, 11:06 AM
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AirTran presentation:
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Republic information:
Republic Airways plays it closer to the chest than usual | Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation - CAPA
http://phx.corporate-ir.net/External...R5cGU9MQ==&t=1
Republic information:
Republic Airways plays it closer to the chest than usual | Centre for Asia Pacific Aviation - CAPA
02-03-2011, 11:10 AM
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We may be talking past each other. I'm not saying the DCI agreement, or the AS agreement, are good. I'm saying all three were negotiated under different times, by different groups. They involve a third party. On the AF, we got involved upfront. On the DCI agreements, we weren't involved at all: whatever our contract allowed, the company negotiated. The AS agreement was negotiated with NW. At least that's how I understand it...
The AS agreement was modified to account for the NW AS agreement. IOW the Section 1 was in fact modified when DAL and NW merged...
I agree that most of these things are in place now with little room for remedies. That's why it is so important to understand and learn from the mistakes and the successes. Something that's not possible if one doesn't allow for criticism of sections that are lacking.
If we want to avoid past mistakes we need to acknowledge them, study them and ensure they don't happen again.
or
we just don't admit to mistakes and continue...
Cheers
George
02-03-2011, 11:14 AM
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02-03-2011, 11:14 AM
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Realize that as Delta CONTRACTS for more regional lift they are obligated to use it.
When they need to further adjust capacity the only remaining capacity they can adjust is mainline. We become the accumulator in the system with 90 days notice.
Not forecasting anything, not saying we're on fire, just pointing out the operation of the system so you understand the steps in the QRH. Hope we don't have to use it.Loyalty?
When they need to further adjust capacity the only remaining capacity they can adjust is mainline. We become the accumulator in the system with 90 days notice.
Not forecasting anything, not saying we're on fire, just pointing out the operation of the system so you understand the steps in the QRH. Hope we don't have to use it.Loyalty?
02-03-2011, 11:19 AM
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I wouldn't say they are "mystical" MD-90s, we've recently taken delivery and operating 3, for a total of 19 on the line and there are 12 in storage under going maintenance/conversion. Ed said we'd acquire about 20 more. I'm sticking with at least 49 MD-90s in the fleet in the next 18 months, possibly more.
In storage:
ship number-type-date of manufacture
9220 - MD-90-30 - 07-Oct-97
9221 - MD-90-30 - 07-Oct-97
9222 - MD-90-30 - 14-Dec-97
9223 - MD-90-30 - 30-Mar-98
9224 - MD-90-30 - 30-Jun-98
9225 - MD-90-30 - 01-Oct-98
9226 - MD-90-30 - 13-Dec-98
9227 - MD-90-30 - 26-Mar-99
9228 - MD-90-30 - 31-Mar-99
9229 - MD-90-30 - 14-Nov-96
9230 - MD-90-30 - 31-Oct-96
9265 - MD-90-30 - 19-Sept-00
In storage:
ship number-type-date of manufacture
9220 - MD-90-30 - 07-Oct-97
9221 - MD-90-30 - 07-Oct-97
9222 - MD-90-30 - 14-Dec-97
9223 - MD-90-30 - 30-Mar-98
9224 - MD-90-30 - 30-Jun-98
9225 - MD-90-30 - 01-Oct-98
9226 - MD-90-30 - 13-Dec-98
9227 - MD-90-30 - 26-Mar-99
9228 - MD-90-30 - 31-Mar-99
9229 - MD-90-30 - 14-Nov-96
9230 - MD-90-30 - 31-Oct-96
9265 - MD-90-30 - 19-Sept-00
02-03-2011, 11:20 AM
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they're made in China!
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George
02-03-2011, 11:21 AM
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02-03-2011, 11:23 AM
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02-03-2011, 11:27 AM
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The way I understand it there were some key players that were involved in all of them.
The AS agreement was modified to account for the NW AS agreement. IOW the Section 1 was in fact modified when DAL and NW merged...
I agree that most of these things are in place now with little room for remedies. That's why it is so important to understand and learn from the mistakes and the successes. Something that's not possible if one doesn't allow for criticism of sections that are lacking.
If we want to avoid past mistakes we need to acknowledge them, study them and ensure they don't happen again.
or
we just don't admit to mistakes and continue...
Cheers
George
The AS agreement was modified to account for the NW AS agreement. IOW the Section 1 was in fact modified when DAL and NW merged...
I agree that most of these things are in place now with little room for remedies. That's why it is so important to understand and learn from the mistakes and the successes. Something that's not possible if one doesn't allow for criticism of sections that are lacking.
If we want to avoid past mistakes we need to acknowledge them, study them and ensure they don't happen again.
or
we just don't admit to mistakes and continue...
Cheers
George
Now that we have time, I'd really like us to craft the contract the Delta pilots will work under, not to blindly head towards a TA. To me, the cornerstones would be be capturing as much of our flying as possible, a review of benefits, a redesign of Section 23, better DC rates, and, finally, tweaking payrates to get to the overall cost we can negotiate.
02-03-2011, 11:27 AM
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Maybe the JAL MD-90's. I think the China Southern MD-90's are a done deal.
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