scambo1

I'm not a black helo guy really, but if we add in all the md-90's what does that bring us to at the mainline?

What does that allow as far as 76 seat jets?

acl65pilot

His numbers are more current than mine. Even more of a point.

Yes, looking at the most recent data we are up two airframes from Oct 10, 2010 for a total of 728 total airframes.

Reroute

Think of it this way, if they fill up on 70-seat jets, it limits the number of 76 seat jets they can add before they hit 255.

With a projected 70/76 seat fleet of 235 aircraft (70 70-seat+12 70-seat on order (4 SKW, 8 RJET)+153 76-seat) the most they could add would be 20. Not good, but not Armageddon either, considering our mainline fleet would have to be above ~774 jets (46 more than today) to get there.

Also, the increase in MD-90s is not all growth, it will be off set by the retirement of DC-9s and older MD-88s.

acl65pilot

Ferd;
It is that word at the bottom of the I-Crew log in screen that is in all caps.

DAL 88 Driver

So bottom line, yet again more of our flying is being effectively transferred to DCI?

acl65pilot

Nothing more than we have already agreed it in the JPWA, LOA19 or any other agreement since CH11.

This is not a new scope sale, the company is just exercising its rights under the PWA.

80ktsClamp

The anger is the fact that the union types continue to have their head in the sand in barely even giving this lip service. It continues to be ignored as a goal to reel this junk in.

johnso29

That's right. And the last contract when we were OUT of BK. So why the HECK is still in there??!!!

scambo1

Actually, since the RJs cant be reduced once added, my question was if they add the -90s before retiring the -9s how many RJs can they add - which would then not be reduceable?

Sink r8

Because the single opportunity to address outstanding issues would have been for the DAL and NW pilots to agree on a SLI voluntarily, and hold it as leverage early on in the merger process. I'm not saying it could have been done, because the SLI piece is almost unsurmountable without arbitration. But once it became pretty obvious to management that we were really not going to stop this thing, and only wanted a payout, BUT could not work together, they gave us the existing contract, plus equity, and some raises, and we jumped on it. I'm not really interested in who is to blame, because, let's be honest: we probably could never have done a voluntary SLI in a split second, and jointly turned against management.

So there went our one significant post-bankruptcy chance of cleaning up the contract.

Are you really confused as to why we're still under a POS contract, or are you just venting?