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Old 01-31-2011, 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
What is ones obligation if they are removed from a trip for OE?

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Review Sec 23.G. Basically they have until 12 hours prior to your original report time to put another trip on your schedule. You get assigned open time BEFORE reserves. A new trip can't start before your original report, but it can finish later. There's more to it, but I don't want to give bad info.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by johnso29
Review Sec 23.G. Basically they have until 12 hours prior to your original report time to put another trip on your schedule. You get assigned open time BEFORE reserves. There's more to it, but I don't want to give bad info.
I read all of that but I am not an attorney so it was clear as mud....

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Old 01-31-2011, 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
What is ones obligation if they are removed from a trip for OE?

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from one of the TWG NOTEPAD:

Regular First Officers Removed for OE
If a regular First Officer is removed from his entire rotation for another pilot’s OE, he will be
subject to recovery flying under Section 23 G.5.a.
1. The Company must attempt to notify him of his recovery flying at least 12 hours prior to
his original report. If he has not been assigned recovery flying by that time, he has no
further recovery obligation.
2. He can be assigned a single rotation that reports on any day of the original rotation but
NET his original report, and releases NLT four hours after his original release or the
same calendar day, whichever is later.
a. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made within 24 hours of his original
report and the recovery flying reports on the same day as the originally scheduled
rotation, he will only be assigned recovery flying under Section 23 N.3. (after white
slips).
b. If the assignment to recovery flying is being made more than 24 hours prior to his
original report, or the recovery flying reports after A day of the original rotation, he
will be assigned recovery flying prior to any assignment made under Section 23 N.1.
3. If he is removed from all or part of his recovery rotation, he cannot be assigned additional
recovery flying.
4. If he has not acknowledged his recovery flying three hours prior to his original report, the
recovery flying may be removed, and he will be subject to recovery flying under Section 23 K.1.
(Refer to “Regular Pilots Removed for IROPS” above). In this case the pilot is
required to be promptly available at his base at the originally scheduled report time. He
may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT four hours after his original
release or the same calendar day, whichever is later (domestic). An international
category pilot may be assigned recovery flying scheduled to release NLT 30 hours after
his original release, provided the last duty period of the recovery flying contains an ocean
crossing.
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by NWA320pilot
I read all of that but I am not an attorney so it was clear as mud....

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Lol. I hear ya. I'm a 320 FO so basically when it happens to me is I end up with a crummy open time trip nobody wants. I think for you if there is no open time you show up to DTW, wait 12 hours and get released, then go home & enjoy paid time off.
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:13 AM
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:26 AM
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At least they fly on Delta. GO STEELERS !!!
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:04 PM
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*Dumb question alert*

I'll probably be ridiculed by the most loyal APCF posters, but is there a 330 in charter configuration? Or do they just charter the airplane and fill the rest of the 200 seats with loyal fans......errr.......contributors?

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Where's the 747?
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
*Dumb question alert*

I'll probably be ridiculed by the most loyal APCF posters, but is there a 330 in charter configuration? Or do they just charter the airplane and fill the rest of the 200 seats with loyal fans......errr.......contributors?

GJ

When a plane is chartered, it is rarely filled... the group chartering the plane pays for the full cost of the plane whether it be for 1 person or 300. Only a few 319's are in the "NBA config."

On the 767 charters I've flown the first class was filled and usually there was aways one seat in between each passenger in coach.
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Old 01-31-2011, 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Gearjerk
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I'll probably be ridiculed by the most loyal APCF posters, but is there a 330 in charter configuration? Or do they just charter the airplane and fill the rest of the 200 seats with loyal fans......errr.......contributors?

GJ
To my knowledge we only have A319's specifically configured for charter. If a team uses a 767/330/747 they just fill the seats that they need. Football teams carry a lot more equipment so they usually need the larger aircraft, but they don't fill all of the seats.
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