Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-28-2011, 09:11 AM
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When will they post results?
Do you guys think there is gonna be enough positive movement to prevent displacements off the Maddog B in ATL?
Thanks!
Do you guys think there is gonna be enough positive movement to prevent displacements off the Maddog B in ATL?
Thanks!
01-28-2011, 09:12 AM
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I can't believe how many of our pilots are pussies. It's a bad change. We were on a famous beach. Now we're in a shopping plaza. I'm amazed how many of our pilots complained about the FLL layover. There were beautiful women on that beach. There were great bars on that beach. What more do you need? Now our FLL layover is no different than a GRR or FNT layover.
I think its a small number that complain loudly when their pillow isn't properly fluffed that keep getting us removed from these great locations.
Put us back on the beach!!!
01-28-2011, 09:19 AM
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Boeing delivered the 777 in 55 months from launch. If they have learned by their mistakes with the 787 they can easily have a all new aircraft out by 2020. Even if it slipped a few years as long as they have it available for sale before the NEO hits the street it could be a game changer for Boeing.
01-28-2011, 09:23 AM
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01-28-2011, 09:27 AM
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Sailing,
I'm headed out the door in a few minutes for a four-day trip. So I don't really have time to properly address your post.
With that said, my recollection is the 757 came out in roughly 1982. The A-320 about five years later and the 737 10 years after that.
Have you ever flown the 737 NG?
When the 757 came out it had electronic circuitry that automatically put the generators on line when the engines were started. Fifteen years later the NG still requires the generators be manually selected. Granted that's one example, but there are plenty.
As I mentioned in my earlier post the 777 came out roughly the same time as the NG. That was an evolutionary aircraft and what 12 or so years later the marketplace is not screaming for a clean-sheet design. They are however screaming (loudly) for a 737 replacement.
Instead of the 737 NG series, what if Boeing had come out with a scaled down 757? I think that would have been world class!
Finally, the 737 is the only aircraft that I can recall on which Delta has taken (several different times) income statement write offs to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to not take delivery of the aircraft.
So Delta would rather lose several million bucks per airplane than operate them. To me anyway, that says a lot.
Sorry I can't respond more thoroughly.
I'm headed out the door in a few minutes for a four-day trip. So I don't really have time to properly address your post.
With that said, my recollection is the 757 came out in roughly 1982. The A-320 about five years later and the 737 10 years after that.
Have you ever flown the 737 NG?
When the 757 came out it had electronic circuitry that automatically put the generators on line when the engines were started. Fifteen years later the NG still requires the generators be manually selected. Granted that's one example, but there are plenty.
As I mentioned in my earlier post the 777 came out roughly the same time as the NG. That was an evolutionary aircraft and what 12 or so years later the marketplace is not screaming for a clean-sheet design. They are however screaming (loudly) for a 737 replacement.
Instead of the 737 NG series, what if Boeing had come out with a scaled down 757? I think that would have been world class!
Finally, the 737 is the only aircraft that I can recall on which Delta has taken (several different times) income statement write offs to the tune of tens of millions of dollars to not take delivery of the aircraft.
So Delta would rather lose several million bucks per airplane than operate them. To me anyway, that says a lot.
Sorry I can't respond more thoroughly.
As far as aircraft Delta has canceled firm orders and had to pay to do so there have been a lot since I was hired. Off the top of my head the 737G, MD11, 767-400, 777, and MD-90. We might have taken delivery of the 8 777ER's that were canceled in the pay dispute and resold them like we have been doing with the 737.
As far as the overhead panel on the 737 USAIR and SWA pushed Boeing hard for a common type rating. It does not change the basic economics of the aircraft a bit. We just don't like it as pilots.
01-28-2011, 09:59 AM
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DAY ROT BLOCK SKED PAY LOG
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
01-28-2011, 10:31 AM
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Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,462
DAY ROT BLOCK SKED PAY LOG
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
01-28-2011, 10:34 AM
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That is how I read it.
If you want to know your credit for the month, minus GS's, look at the credit applicable to GS pay.
01-28-2011, 10:43 AM
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DAY ROT BLOCK SKED PAY LOG
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
Pay time is what you get paid for and usually mirriors the credit time. If you get a premium pay trip (GS, GSWC, IA, IAWC) it is pay no credit and will only be listed in the pay column and down the timecard under GSlip pay or one of the listings after that.
Denny
01-28-2011, 10:45 AM
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Joined APC: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,598
DAY ROT BLOCK SKED PAY LOG
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
DATE DES NBR HRS TIME TIME CREDIT STAT
01JAN RQ 20TR 25:40 25:40 CLSD
13JAN RES 0926 23:12 23:25 23:25 23:25 CLSD
20JAN RES 0554 14:49 22:00 22:00 22:00 CLSD
29JAN RES 0947 9:19 16:14 16:14 11:28 OPEN
RES OTHER SUB TTL PAYBACK BANK OPT 1 TTL BANK OPT 1
CREDIT GUAR GUAR CREDIT NEG BANK AWD CREDIT LIMIT
82:33 + 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 - 0:00 + 0:00 = 82:33 82:00
____________________
CREDIT APPLICABLE TO REG G/S SLIP PAY: 82:33 REG G/S TRIGGER: 75:00
____________________
BANK DEP TTL BANK G/SLIP OUT
AWARD OPTS AWARD CREDIT BANK
0:00 0:00 0:00 0:00
G/SLIP PAY : 0:00 ASSIGN PAY: 0:00 RES ASSIGN-G/SLIP PAY: 0:00
REROUTE PAY: 0:00 RES LOOK BACK GUAR : 0:00
Can anyone please explain the difference between "Pay Time" and "Credit" above? Thought I'd be paid for ~87 hours versus ~82 hours.
Thanks.
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