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Old 01-26-2011, 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Funny George. I think they all know about that stuff over there.
yeah I know, its just the whole stones and glass houses thing

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Old 01-26-2011, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
Its that whole waiting until we see what LCC does with their Snap Back Grievance, and what APA and UALALPA do prior to seeing our bar thingie.
Yup, just keep waiting/doing what we have always done and expecting a good result, that should work. I expect a mediocre contract passing by the high 60%'s just like usual.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:07 AM
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Originally Posted by boog123
Yup, just keep waiting/doing what we have always done and expecting a good result, that should work. I expect a mediocre contract passing by the high 60%'s just like usual.

That is a ridiculous statement. I do not want my MEC to use today's rate and add a percentage to it, when there are two section six talks and a snap back grievance that is going to arbitration open. That is a surefire way to get a lot of pilots honked off at our MEC for "managing their expectations."

Go talk to a LCC buddy of yours (Eastie) and ask them about what this grievance is about. You might want to think twice about what a restoration stance would do if this was won. Add to it, two section six contracts are open, and we have a year or more before we open. Yep, lets put something out there that may be wildly off the mark today.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by DeadHead
Ahh come one now, the 88 is like the neighborhood MILF.
Sure she's been around the block more than a few times and you'll probably more than likely catch something from her, but the old gal still has a few years on her.
Just be careful, those glycol stains can be really hard to get out.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:23 AM
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Originally Posted by georgetg
SEA and LAX are pilot bases (domiciles)

By definition a "hub" has more than 100 departures a day...

The PWA defines LAX as a hub to provide "protection" to LAX flying.

In reality AS can fly the DL code to anywhere in the world from LAX.
The hub status "protection" limits AS flights from LAX to ATL, CVG, DTW, MEM, NYC & SLC to 25% of all flights on those routes...hardly a limit at all.

Call your reps or RD (codeshare guy) and voice your discontent...

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How many flights a day does BOS have? Because BOS-SEA is 2 AS flights a day and zero DL flights a day.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by marcal
Delta guys,

In 2003, AMR parked an entire fleet of F-100's which resulted in mass furloughs. In 2007, UAL parked an entire fleet of B737's which resulted in mass furloughs.

As someone that is considering coming to the Big D in the future, what is the likelyhood that something like that could happen with say the MD-80's.

I know it is all unknown, but my biggest concern would be luckily getting on, and then gas goes up and a fleet gets parked resulting in mass furloughs.

Any thoughts?
Actually, the way to look at it is Delta in the 2000s parked some 47 L1011s, 15 MD11s, 15 767-200s, 26 737-300s, 54 737-200s and 102 727s and furloughed in mass post 9/11 didn't hire until 2007.

Northwest parked 31 727s, 22 747s, 43 DC10s, 8 MD-82s and 137 DC9s. They did not hire either until 2007 if I'm not mistaken.

That's 500 jets in a decade that are gone.

The MD-88 according to the company was just hitting its half life in 2009 or 2010. Most of the ones I fly seem to be from 1988 to a few years after. FWIW.

Originally Posted by DeadHead
Ahh come one now, the 88 is like the neighborhood MILF.
Sure she's been around the block more than a few times and you'll probably more than likely catch something from her, but the old gal still has a few years on her.
Okay, deadhead, you know how we have the grammar police? Well, this is kind of similar. You made an excellent analogy that was somewhat sexual in nature and I don't see a single picture? Not a one to convey what you pictured in your mind a neighborhood female equivalent to the MD88.
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Old 01-26-2011, 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by gloopy
How many flights a day does BOS have? Because BOS-SEA is 2 AS flights a day and zero DL flights a day.
Neither BOS nor SEA have 100 departures/day or are defined as "hubs" in the PWA in fact Section 1 specifically excludes SEA from ever having hub status...

On your next trip look at the route map in Sky Magazine...
lots of green (AS) flying on the map


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Old 01-26-2011, 09:58 AM
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I've been gone awhile... Are we getting any "new" airplanes?
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:16 AM
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Fairly new to this forum, but I got the call and a feeling of concern definitely came across when I answered "yes" I am familiar with DPA.

As a newby on APC I want to party with Carl
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Old 01-26-2011, 10:20 AM
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Can anybody tell me what the code P under reason means when looking at daily trip coverage in open time?

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