Wilbur Wright

Maybe, but the 757/767/7ER were combined in C2K so maybe after the 96 contract the difference between 767 and 7ER was $15/$10.

Wilbur Wright

Ernie's a great guy to layover with. As long as I buy the beer he's willing to take the ugly one.

Jack Bauer

They are not buying them at this time but skywest is picking up Horizons jets and starting to do what will be called "Alaska Express". As far as I know (someone correct me if I am wrong) Alaska does not have a scope restriction on their RJ's.

What does this mean for Delta Pilots? Alaska can continue to do more of the Delta west coast flying and you could see not only 737's on these routes but also CRJ1000, EMB195, C-series Jets. Again the old camels nose under the tent.

A huge error under the Moak administration to sign off on the NWA/Alaska code share without putting the essential restrictions in. Dumb, Dumb, Dumb!!! But at least DALPA has a good working relationship with management so we got that going for us.


January 25, 2011

Alaska Air Group announced today that Alaska Airlines has reached an initial agreement for SkyWest Airlines to acquire the five remaining CRJ-700s in Horizon Air’s fleet and operate them under a capacity purchase agreement. Alaska also announced it is considering the deployment of Horizon Q400s on some state of Alaska routes.

Andrew Harrison, vice president of planning and revenue management, and Joe Sprague, vice president of marketing, answer questions related to these two moves.

Why is Alaska entering into a CPA with SkyWest?
Harrison: Horizon’s financial success depends on its transition to an all-Q400 fleet so it can reap benefits equivalent to what Alaska gained from its own transition to the Boeing 737. That leaves a few longer routes that, for competitive and economic reasons, we need to keep serving with regional jets. SkyWest will fill that need.

What routes will SkyWest be flying?
Harrison: We’re still evaluating that and expect to have an answer in the next month or so. As always with major market changes, we’ll let employees, vendors and airport authorities in these cities know before we announce publicly. What I can say at this point is that SkyWest will primarily be flying the CRJ-700s on some of our longer-haul West Coast routes currently served with the aircraft, but not all of them. Those others will be served by Horizon with the Q400.

Why not have Alaska fly its own jets on these routes?
Harrison: We’ve found that larger jets don’t work well on these routes.

Why is SkyWest flying these routes instead of Horizon?
Sprague: Horizon will not be able to capture the economies of a single fleet until all of its CRJ-700s are gone. In addition, with hundreds of regional jets in its fleet contracted to fly for numerous other customers in similar CPA arrangements, SkyWest has economies of scale that Horizon cannot match.

When will the last five CRJ-700s begin leaving Horizon’s fleet?
Harrison: The current plan is for the last five Horizon CRJ-700s to transition out of Horizon’s fleet starting in April. All current Horizon CRJ-700 flying will either be flown for Alaska with a Horizon Q400 or with a SkyWest CRJ-700 by summer. In order to get the SkyWest CRJ-700s painted in their new livery, some of the flights may need to be temporarily operated with SkyWest 50-seat regional jets until all the CRJ-700s are repainted.

What will be the livery on the SkyWest CRJ-700s flown for Alaska?
Sprague: These SkyWest CRJ-700s will likely sport a version of the Alaska livery. A final decision on this is expected shortly.

Many of our competitors offer a first class cabin on their regional airline partners. Will there be a first class on these SkyWest-operated Alaska flights?
Sprague: Some the majors offer first class on their regional partners as a way to attract very lucrative international business and first class passenger connections. The vast majority of our customers on these SkyWest-operated routes are traveling domestic point-to-point and are very price sensitive. Our experience is that relatively few customers purchase first class seats on our short routes. We believe we’ll gain more revenue by having more seats in a single-class configuration, lowering our per-seat cost and allowing us to remain competitive with the likes of single-class competitors like Southwest and JetBlue.

Will SkyWest offer complimentary Northwest wines and microbrews like Horizon?
Sprague: Yes. This enhances the inflight experience for all customers, including those who would have preferred a first class cabin had it been available.

Why would we want to operate Horizon flights in the state of Alaska?
Harrison: In looking at the average demand for air travel on some intra-Alaska routes, we see in many cases that demand could be accommodated with a 76-seat Q400 and at a lower cost. Replacing Alaska mainline flying with the Q400 would allow us to reduce costs and lower fares on the routes and give us the opportunity to re-deploy 737s on other routes where they can be more profitable. Our commitment to air cargo in the state of Alaska remains unchanged, and that service will continue to be provided primarily by Alaska Airlines, due to the size and quantity of cargo involved.

When could we see the first Horizon Q400s in the state of Alaska and where would they operate?
Harrison: It’s too early to tell, because it’s not a done deal yet. Scheduling people in my group and operations folks at Horizon and Alaska are working up possible scenarios. Should we decide to proceed, it would likely involve two or three Q400s and would not take place before the end of this year. Once we arrive at any decisions, we’ll get the word out.
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scambo1

Jack;

Thanks for posting that.

For everyone else: Scope: SCOPE!!!

We are outsourced at the bottom with RJs, We are outsourced at the top with skyteam, We are outsourced in the middle with Alaska, and Alaska (and therefore we) are outsourced to Horizon.

Is this clear enough?

johnso29

FYI, there ARE restrictions on the Alaska Codeshare. If you'd like details about it please call your Rep.

Jack Bauer

Thats good to know. I will call my rep. In the mean time if anybody here has that knowledge/language please post.

Even without "Alaska Express" Alaska seems to be moving ahead with further expansion. I wonder at who's expense.

http://blog.seattlepi.com/aerospace/...rom=blog_last3


Btw, I was one of those who thought Delta might buy Alaska in the near future. I no longer think that is the case unless someone else forces the issue. I do not believe Alaska would have penned a five year agreement with the University of Washington to have the Alaska Airlines name put on the basketball arena if a merger/buyout were imminent.


http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...arena/139630/1

Amish Pilot

Where do you come up with this Sh**. FTB.......You one funny MoFo.
I missed it yesterday, I got short called. Nice Donkey!

Bucking Bar

Never mind ... ...

johnso29

Here's what I've found........


5. "AS" means Alaska Airlines, Inc. and any carrier to the extent of its category B operations using the AS code.

7. "Category B operation" means the operation of a flight segment by a domestic air carrier:

a. that:

1) controls Continental or Alaska, or

2) is controlled by Continental or Alaska whether directly or indirectly through the control of other entities, or

3) is under common control with Continental or Alaska, or

4) operates such flight segment under any of the CO or AS code(s) under an agreement with Continental or Alaska respectively, other than a prorate agreement,

and, b. that only operates:

1) aircraft that:

a) are certificated for operation in the United States for 70 or fewer passenger seats, and

b) have a maximum certificated gross takeoff weight in the United States of 85,000 or fewer pounds; and/or

2) Bombardier Q-400 aircraft (under the terms and conditions of the Alaska Pilot Working Agreement).


From what I'm reading the largest allowable Skywest jet is 70 seats weighing less then 85,000 lbs.

I got this from our current PWA under Sec 1.

beer

Where are the Bid Results!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!