Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-24-2011, 04:56 AM
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Dude,
You want us to get Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman back? No way. Beggars can't be choosers. We have to keep Cutler, they did pretty good with him.
For a team that I had pegged for a 7-9 season, the Bears exceeded my career expectations and I got a windfall. Hey, where are those mean SWA FO's anyway? I miss the AirTran thread.
You want us to get Kyle Orton or Rex Grossman back? No way. Beggars can't be choosers. We have to keep Cutler, they did pretty good with him.
For a team that I had pegged for a 7-9 season, the Bears exceeded my career expectations and I got a windfall. Hey, where are those mean SWA FO's anyway? I miss the AirTran thread.
I'll put it this way, the Bears don't get enough credit for what theyre able to accomplish despite their QBs. I mean youve got to be a special coach to get a team to the Super Bowl with Rex Grossman at the helm. But youre right, talk about exceeding early expectations, they hosted the NFC Championship! Youre coach should not be on the hotseat anymore.
01-24-2011, 05:39 AM
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Regulations.gov
I still find this the most interesting read off of there, mainly because so much is redacted:
Regulations.gov
My bet, the DOT/DOJ threw out all principle (as much as any government agency could have) and did exactly what SWA demanded and then SWA announced a merger with AAI leaving the DOT/DOJ out to dry. DAL/LLC's lawsuit probably will win and the DOT/DOJ has an option to either save face and "compromise" with DAL/LLC or to let everyone see just how compromised they were by SWA who was out for nobody but SWA.
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01-24-2011, 05:56 AM
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01-24-2011, 06:04 AM
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There is some international service out of LGA, lots of Canadian carriers. Now if you're referring to Scambo's comments about being on the 777, no 777s won't be in and out of LGA but NYC based FA's would make their way to scambo's 777 in JFK and make him happy. But for now he'll probably be relegated to Helga's team of former Pan Am FA's, all of whom are proud to tell you of their 20 years at Pan Am, an airline that went out of business 20 years ago.
I can't put a hard number on it Scambo but I remember us talking specifically that there were some slots that were limited to small aircraft. I looked here and couldn't find any info:
Regulations.gov
I still find this the most interesting read off of there, mainly because so much is redacted:
Regulations.gov
My bet, the DOT/DOJ through out all principle (as much as any government agency could have) did exactly what SWA demanded and then SWA announced a merger with AAI leaving the DOT/DOJ out to dry. DAL/LLC's lawsuit probably will win and the DOT/DOJ has an option to either save face and "compromise" with DAL/LLC or to let everyone see just how compromised they were by SWA who was out for nobody but SWA.
I can't put a hard number on it Scambo but I remember us talking specifically that there were some slots that were limited to small aircraft. I looked here and couldn't find any info:
Regulations.gov
I still find this the most interesting read off of there, mainly because so much is redacted:
Regulations.gov
My bet, the DOT/DOJ through out all principle (as much as any government agency could have) did exactly what SWA demanded and then SWA announced a merger with AAI leaving the DOT/DOJ out to dry. DAL/LLC's lawsuit probably will win and the DOT/DOJ has an option to either save face and "compromise" with DAL/LLC or to let everyone see just how compromised they were by SWA who was out for nobody but SWA.
It has been so different to have crews that actually want to go out and do stuff with the pilots - AND who not only dont expect you to pay for dinner, but instead insist on buying a round...big difference.
FTB it think your bet on the SWA/DOT is probably right on the mark. Lets hope for some face saving and a fast track of the slot swap.
01-24-2011, 06:07 AM
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Got my survey call last night. Was appreciative of the opportunity to once again voice my disappointment in the fact that our MEC agreed to MD90 conversion (ATL/NYC), MD88 seat increases, and waiver of ALV contract restrictions back in '09 for 88 guys without getting something in return, e.g. 88 & 90 pay on the same scale (like all other aircraft are on property). Doubt anyone will do anything other than mumble "noted."
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01-24-2011, 06:08 AM
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Some of the slots that USairways are trying to trade are "commuter" slots which are designated for commuter (used to be airplanes certified in the Commuter category, but are now, RJs) planes, but there are no restrictions on where they can go (other than existing distance requirements from LGA)
Someone was mentioning Essential Air Service (EAS) - completely separate. EAS routes are subsidized routes to very small towns (places used to be like Watertown, NY, Saranac, NY, etc) but none of the routes link to LGA. Watertown's link to the outside world is via Cape Air's Cessna-402 service to Albany, NY. Not a big market... None connect to LGA. In fact, a number of the EAS routes connect to DTW.
Someone was mentioning Essential Air Service (EAS) - completely separate. EAS routes are subsidized routes to very small towns (places used to be like Watertown, NY, Saranac, NY, etc) but none of the routes link to LGA. Watertown's link to the outside world is via Cape Air's Cessna-402 service to Albany, NY. Not a big market... None connect to LGA. In fact, a number of the EAS routes connect to DTW.
01-24-2011, 06:11 AM
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For once I'm glad we use the other Moscow airport, SVO. A bomb there might improve it.
01-24-2011, 06:13 AM
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01-24-2011, 06:23 AM
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I think if DAL was not going to compromise before to give in to SWA I seriously doubt theyre going to do this now post the SWA/AAI windfall merger. I think the DOT wants to settle.
01-24-2011, 06:39 AM
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Look at the 330 rotations out of MSP that do flying out of ATL.
Look at the parings that do a significant flying out of ATL. Many of then have DH's in the paring. Point is that if they can relocate a category and save on those DH's it is a savings of not just money but pilot positions.
As for the size of these rumored categories, who knows. The 320 does a ton of NYC flying too, but there is not talk of a base up there. It all comes down to the most efficient place for a crew to start and end a trip.
Look at the parings that do a significant flying out of ATL. Many of then have DH's in the paring. Point is that if they can relocate a category and save on those DH's it is a savings of not just money but pilot positions.
As for the size of these rumored categories, who knows. The 320 does a ton of NYC flying too, but there is not talk of a base up there. It all comes down to the most efficient place for a crew to start and end a trip.
In addition, look at the non-seasonal destinations (for now) for the 330 out of ATL and you will see ATL-HNL, ATL-AMS and ATL-DKR-LAD. The rest of the flying has so far moved around between fleets, so depending on base size ATL based pilots may get the bulk of DKR/LAD flying and if may be the biggest percentage of their flying.
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