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the question is will its opening mean a draw down in 88 or 73 flying and surpluses there?
now I think it would be a major consideration by most but we do have some that have their heads stuck in their nether regions when it comes to the Airbus. Seen it in the crewroom with such gems as:
Random Captain: "What are you doing here?"
ALPA Rep: "Listening tour. Anything you want us to work on?"
Random Captain: "Yeah, get rid of the Airbuses."
or
Loud know it all to buddy but for everyone to hear: "Yeah the dirty secret about that UsAir flight that landed in the Hudson was that it had FADECs so as soon as one engine shut off the other one went to idle. Thats how its designed."
So what does that mean? There's a chance for a good category seniority on a good plane.
My hesitation is being in a new category where 50% is still reserve.
now I think it would be a major consideration by most but we do have some that have their heads stuck in their nether regions when it comes to the Airbus. Seen it in the crewroom with such gems as:
Random Captain: "What are you doing here?"
ALPA Rep: "Listening tour. Anything you want us to work on?"
Random Captain: "Yeah, get rid of the Airbuses."
or
Loud know it all to buddy but for everyone to hear: "Yeah the dirty secret about that UsAir flight that landed in the Hudson was that it had FADECs so as soon as one engine shut off the other one went to idle. Thats how its designed."
So what does that mean? There's a chance for a good category seniority on a good plane.
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Just to minimize the good seniority on a crappy jet issue, FADEC is a part of every modern jet engine. FADEC is like saying "xerox machine" when you refer to a copier. FADEC, EEC and ECU are completely interchangeable in the jet engine design world, the term used is generally more dependant on the engine manufacturer than the function of the "black box." I should caveat this with many EECs and ECUs do allow for a certain level of manual override and authority.
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Just to minimize the good seniority on a crappy jet issue, FADEC is a part of every modern jet engine. FADEC is like saying "xerox machine" when you refer to a copier. FADEC, EEC and ECU are completely interchangeable in the jet engine design world, the term used is generally more dependant on the engine manufacturer than the function of the "black box." I should caveat this with many EECs and ECUs do allow for a certain level of manual override and authority.
BTW the 73N EECs are even better, they kick off-line when the PSEU system (that locks the overwing doors) fails... who decided to connect those two systems?
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It doesn't pay as much as the 73N, requires a long training period at Natco, and I see many people currently commuting to DTW bidding ATL if it is closer to their home. Same with the A330. A lot of A330 pilots live in FLA and do the one monthly commute to DTW to start and end a 12 day trip. I would think ATL would get very senior on those two planes, with DTW opening up.
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Just to minimize the good seniority on a crappy jet issue, FADEC is a part of every modern jet engine. FADEC is like saying "xerox machine" when you refer to a copier. FADEC, EEC and ECU are completely interchangeable in the jet engine design world, the term used is generally more dependant on the engine manufacturer than the function of the "black box." I should caveat this with many EECs and ECUs do allow for a certain level of manual override and authority.
Maybe the guy is an 88 guy but we know as 88 guys not to throw stones since we do live in a glass house... more like the crystal cathedral... blessed by God.
But he was a Captain so you'd think he'd been around.
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I was just adding to the douchification (derivative of the french word for shower) of APC
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It doesn't pay as much as the 73N, requires a long training period at Natco, and I see many people currently commuting to DTW bidding ATL if it is closer to their home. Same with the A330. A lot of A330 pilots live in FLA and do the one monthly commute to DTW to start and end a 12 day trip. I would think ATL would get very senior on those two planes, with DTW opening up.
But I agree ATL will be super senior but it might not be because of FL commuters. I think if ATL 330 opens and the pent up demand following the 7ER transformation and 764 slaughter in Peachtree City and Dallas for a strict international category will attract a lot of seniority to it not to mention 330 guys already on the plane who chase it in either base.
As to commuters, if you live in MCO is it worth it to bid ATL and lose seniority to save an hour on your commute? If you live in JAX, maybe. But if you only do it once and a half times a month, probably not. Being closer helps really only if you're driving and not if you're hell bent on taking the last flight that lands with 30 minutes left before show.
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I think commuters will go to the path of least resistance to the highest QOL and to me, it's DTW. Put it this way, I know ATL based and ATL residing pilots who are ready to bid off the 737 and go to DTW and fly the 320. Fly 3 5-days a month for 80+ hours beats the snot out of flying every day on reserve on super unproductive trips.
As to the 320, still curious as to whether its replacing mainline equipment in ATL or adding to it and pooping out RJs?
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Look at the amount of flying the 320 and 330 do out of ATL. Go take the time to look at the bid packages, and see how many rotations DH to and from ATL. Take the DH's out and you have ATL rotations.
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There are a few very senior FO's on the 88 that have stated they would bid the right seat of it, if it arrived. All flew the Fluff (-200) and swore they did would not bid that again, so this gives them an opportunity to do different flying.
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