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Old 01-21-2011, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Roadkill
Well...
Tomorrow is my last day in USAF, fini flight too. So I'm about to turn in my "return to Delta" from 5 years of MLOA about. I've been reading here for 5 months or so. Couple questions though, if anyone knows the answers. I was hired in Jul2001, did my IOE checkride 9/10 and flew until Nov 2001, then furloughed. Recalled 2006, took it and immediate MLOA. So only three months of flying active, then "back" but on MLOA
1. Am I still on probation when I come back, or was that waived?
2. Am I on 1st year pay when I come back, or will it be from the pay charts?
3. If I tell the company I'm avail to come back 1 Mar, will I have my choice of aircraft/base that I can hold from the seniority list, or do I get some NYC thing?
4. Is there any reason to rush-call them before the AE bid closes 28 Jan, anything I gain by trying to be "in system" before bid closes?
5. My plan was to see what I can hold after AE and bid accordingly, assuming I have my choice... What's better, SLC 73N B @63% , or SLC 320 B @ 61%? (Phx commute) Or 7ER reserve at bottom in LAX or SLC?

Take a break from the contract arguing and help an old noob out!

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I returned July of 09 so here is a stab at your questions:
1. No clue as I was off probation when I took MLOA
2. Your pay will be based on your time before furlough plus time out on MLOA. Therefore you should be close to 5-6 year pay.
3. When you tell Delta you are coming back just tell them base and A/C you want. Your seniority must be able hold it.
4. Irrelevant. Bid what you want as long as your seniority can hold it. Based on Jul 01 hire I suspect you will be fine at what you are looking at now (LAX, SLC).
5. Look at flights in and out of PHX to both LAX and SLC. Find out which gives you the most options and how many or off line.

Welcome back. Easy job after the military bs.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
I gathered that it meant that you are at max longevity on the pay scale.

I know that you were initially trying to infer and longevity based pay system with no difference between aircraft. Or at least that is what I thought you were trying to infer

Yeah, and he illustrated exactly my point as to why the current system is retarded... it stops at 12 years... why???????????????????????? It keeps you reaching for a brass ring that you will never get: Seniority AND QOL.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Denny Crane
If they were new orders then I agree they would be fenced. But if they are a replacement aircraft for 330's, which we can all bid, I think the argument could be made that those airplanes should be open to all. A moot point any way since it's not going to happen. (Glass half empty today!)


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So, if the company decides to take more 777's to replace the 787's on order then they would be open for all to bid? Or do the fences on the 787 transfer to the additional 777's. The only reason I bring this up is that NWA went through this with the 330/DC-10.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:33 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Yeah, and he illustrated exactly my point as to why the current system is retarded... it stops at 12 years... why???????????????????????? It keeps you reaching for a brass ring that you will never get: Seniority AND QOL.

That is the problem the ring is brass, not gold!
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:36 PM
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by maddogmax
So, if the company decides to take more 777's to replace the 787's on order then they would be open for all to bid? Or do the fences on the 787 transfer to the additional 777's. The only reason I bring this up is that NWA went through this with the 330/DC-10.
The 787's are delayed and we are taking deferred delivery. If we got new 777's I do not think they would be replacements for the 787.

The real interpretation point is would more 744's be replacements for the 742? I know many guys seem to think so. It will be a question for the DRC.


In the end the reality is that any large WB jet is really good for the majority of the list because it sucks more of us up.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

Sir that will need to fit in an overhead bin or underneath the seat in front of you.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by acl65pilot
That is the problem the ring is brass, not gold!
Point taken... but I still want to know why it ends at 12 years. I have never gotten a good explanation for that. And everyone should also realize that NOBODY gets a payraise after next year.. sorry.. pay increase...
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:42 PM
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The NWA/REP pilots spent a lot of time and money resolving the A330/DC-10 issue. I would hate to see that happen here.
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Old 01-21-2011, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by tsquare
Point taken... but I still want to know why it ends at 12 years. I have never gotten a good explanation for that. And everyone should also realize that NOBODY gets a payraise after next year.. sorry.. pay increase...

The reality is that unless you can get a percentage increase or the like above year 12 there is no point. I am sure the company would love to do what Evergreen does and have a 20+ year pay scale that lets you hit your current pay at year 20.

Point is be careful what you wish for.
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