Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-20-2011, 10:10 PM
Line Holder
Joined APC: Jan 2010
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Welcome back!!
1. I believe you will be on probation until you hit 400 hours with Delta... not positive with the MLOA thing but pretty sure.
2-4.... was going to take a stab at 2 but I realized you took instant MLOA. I'll defer to these and continue to pick my nose.
5. Any category may vary over time... especially similar categories like the 737 and 320. At the same % in like types you typically will have similar QOL, but that may vary. Bottom rsv as a commuter I would not recommend.
1. I believe you will be on probation until you hit 400 hours with Delta... not positive with the MLOA thing but pretty sure.
2-4.... was going to take a stab at 2 but I realized you took instant MLOA. I'll defer to these and continue to pick my nose.
5. Any category may vary over time... especially similar categories like the 737 and 320. At the same % in like types you typically will have similar QOL, but that may vary. Bottom rsv as a commuter I would not recommend.
2. You are on 6th year pay. You get longevity for the years you were furloughed but not for the years you bypassed.
* hold on....if you accepted recall and then went right to ML. You are on 9 or 10 year pay...
3. You are placed where there is an open position according to your recall preferences.
4. I think this AE will pass you by but the next one will not.
5. Things have changed drastically since you left but like was said to me "Those years sucked anyway." The 73 and the Bus are a tossup. 5 day trips for commuters and a comfortable cockpit on the 320. Small veal fattening pen and nice 2-3day trips with long legs on the 73N. If you are commuting, I would say go with whatever gives you the better seniority but it's even. The 73 doesn't do PHX overnights.
There will be 24 hour short calls on the Er in SLC by the way when they get em going
Last edited by Racer X; 01-20-2011 at 10:30 PM.
01-20-2011, 10:56 PM
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Well...
Tomorrow is my last day in USAF, fini flight too. So I'm about to turn in my "return to Delta" from 5 years of MLOA about. I've been reading here for 5 months or so. Couple questions though, if anyone knows the answers. I was hired in Jul2001, did my IOE checkride 9/10 and flew until Nov 2001, then furloughed. Recalled 2006, took it and immediate MLOA. So only three months of flying active, then "back" but on MLOA
1. Am I still on probation when I come back, or was that waived?
2. Am I on 1st year pay when I come back, or will it be from the pay charts?
3. If I tell the company I'm avail to come back 1 Mar, will I have my choice of aircraft/base that I can hold from the seniority list, or do I get some NYC thing?
4. Is there any reason to rush-call them before the AE bid closes 28 Jan, anything I gain by trying to be "in system" before bid closes?
5. My plan was to see what I can hold after AE and bid accordingly, assuming I have my choice... What's better, SLC 73N B @63% , or SLC 320 B @ 61%? (Phx commute) Or 7ER reserve at bottom in LAX or SLC?
Take a break from the contract arguing and help an old noob out!
Tomorrow is my last day in USAF, fini flight too. So I'm about to turn in my "return to Delta" from 5 years of MLOA about. I've been reading here for 5 months or so. Couple questions though, if anyone knows the answers. I was hired in Jul2001, did my IOE checkride 9/10 and flew until Nov 2001, then furloughed. Recalled 2006, took it and immediate MLOA. So only three months of flying active, then "back" but on MLOA
1. Am I still on probation when I come back, or was that waived?
2. Am I on 1st year pay when I come back, or will it be from the pay charts?
3. If I tell the company I'm avail to come back 1 Mar, will I have my choice of aircraft/base that I can hold from the seniority list, or do I get some NYC thing?
4. Is there any reason to rush-call them before the AE bid closes 28 Jan, anything I gain by trying to be "in system" before bid closes?
5. My plan was to see what I can hold after AE and bid accordingly, assuming I have my choice... What's better, SLC 73N B @63% , or SLC 320 B @ 61%? (Phx commute) Or 7ER reserve at bottom in LAX or SLC?
Take a break from the contract arguing and help an old noob out!
Welcome back Roadkill & thank you for your service.
01-21-2011, 12:12 AM
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
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1. On probation for 400 hours or 1 year service. Captains will still receive new hire assessment forms to fill out for you. No ALPA dues are paid until you are off probation but the Co. will still get you for payroll deducted uniforms from 10 years ago (They didn't forget)
2. You are on 6th year pay. You get longevity for the years you were furloughed but not for the years you bypassed.
* hold on....if you accepted recall and then went right to ML. You are on 9 or 10 year pay...
3. You are placed where there is an open position according to your recall preferences.
4. I think this AE will pass you by but the next one will not.
5. Things have changed drastically since you left but like was said to me "Those years sucked anyway." The 73 and the Bus are a tossup. 5 day trips for commuters and a comfortable cockpit on the 320. Small veal fattening pen and nice 2-3day trips with long legs on the 73N. If you are commuting, I would say go with whatever gives you the better seniority but it's even. The 73 doesn't do PHX overnights.
There will be 24 hour short calls on the Er in SLC by the way when they get em going
2. You are on 6th year pay. You get longevity for the years you were furloughed but not for the years you bypassed.
* hold on....if you accepted recall and then went right to ML. You are on 9 or 10 year pay...
3. You are placed where there is an open position according to your recall preferences.
4. I think this AE will pass you by but the next one will not.
5. Things have changed drastically since you left but like was said to me "Those years sucked anyway." The 73 and the Bus are a tossup. 5 day trips for commuters and a comfortable cockpit on the 320. Small veal fattening pen and nice 2-3day trips with long legs on the 73N. If you are commuting, I would say go with whatever gives you the better seniority but it's even. The 73 doesn't do PHX overnights.
There will be 24 hour short calls on the Er in SLC by the way when they get em going
He fooled me with the MLOA thing too on the longevity! I started to answer then realized he took immediate MLOA instead of bypass. Finger inserted back into nose.
As far as the 737 and PHX layovers, I've had several since I've checked out on the cramped coffin of noise. I do miss the Squaw Peak resort but openly welcome every chance at the Blue Burrito by the gates in PHX. My stomach grumbles now for a Chorizo Egg and Cheese....
Last edited by 80ktsClamp; 01-21-2011 at 12:41 AM.
01-21-2011, 02:42 AM
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NYC 73n SUX DO NOT BID IT! Not really, I just don't want to move down another number!
01-21-2011, 02:49 AM
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01-21-2011, 02:54 AM
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Yes there is a bunch of trips that usually go junior that have a red eye back to JFK on the last day. There are a lot of two day(really two 1/2 days) double red eyes to the west coast and back. Those suck. I've really got to learn how to bid.
01-21-2011, 03:19 AM
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01-21-2011, 03:24 AM
The Brown Dot +1
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Pilot judgement. Poor form to armchair quarterback something that another person does successfully and which is a consideration in several military manuals. I guess he could have requested a chase ship to pull into the slot position.
01-21-2011, 03:34 AM
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01-21-2011, 03:59 AM
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For those of you considering bidding MSP. It's -32 degrees C without the windchill outside my door. That is all.....
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