Any "Latest & Greatest" about Delta?
01-20-2011, 04:36 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
google image searches can be very entertaining. Within the last week I had brained my damage on something and threw in the word CNNSI in the images.google.com search instead of in the address window. Go ahead and give it a whirl and see what comes up.
01-20-2011, 04:45 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
Posts: 3,457
01-20-2011, 04:50 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
Posts: 3,457
01-20-2011, 04:57 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: LAX ERA
Posts: 3,457
Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it!
Took the Banana Boat to survival school!
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it!
Took the Banana Boat to survival school!
Overall, I'm encouraged..........now if they will just put more flying into LAX
01-20-2011, 05:01 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2008
Position: Urban chicken rancher.
Posts: 6,070
01-20-2011, 05:23 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2009
Posts: 282
SWA wasn't big enough at that time to be viewed as a equal competitor. They had barely entered CA from PHX. And in CA it was still PSA's market as USAir had not blown it to smithereens yet.
01-20-2011, 05:26 PM
veut gagner à la loterie
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Position: Light Chop
Posts: 23,286
01-20-2011, 05:26 PM
Can't abide NAI
Joined APC: Jun 2007
Position: Douglas Aerospace post production Flight Test & Work Around Engineering bulletin dissembler
Posts: 12,014
The quickest, easiest, way for you to begin your review is to begin with the NWA Zip Lines. Chairman Mark McClain in his publication dated 18 October 2004 provided a synopsis of their tentative agreement which was designed to allow Northwest (now Delta) to achieve "safe harbor" by avoiding bankruptcy. This publication illustrates the pattern that was established and repeated in concessionary bargaining until our Companies emerged from bankruptcy and merged.
Here is a thumbnail. Northwest was seeking cost savings and the savings were negotiated and allocated as follows:
I see where you are coming from. Judges have broad authority and talk tough when trying to compel parties to reach an agreement. Judges also get overturned on appeal. ALPA's history at the Courthouse is unfortunately abysmal ... a symptom of lawyers who practice politics more than law. I am in no position to gauge how serious our Reps felt the threat was.
We agree that an agreement was reached by mutual consent. That is the factual history. The results speak for themselves and what gets stated at a public hearing and what happens behind closed doors are entirely different. Depositions, past practice and ALPA publications descriptive of the process used during concessionary bargaining seem clear to me.
PM sent with regard to the Delta negotiations. No need for collateral damage over something that happened years ago... and to my F-NWA friends, my apologies for airing your dirty laundry while keeping mine tucked away.
Here is a thumbnail. Northwest was seeking cost savings and the savings were negotiated and allocated as follows:
- Pay Reductions $161 million
- Sick leave $3.8 million
- Medical / Dental Insurance co pays $9.2 million
- Allowing the company to roll down balance sheet charges on pension funding (not a pension change an accounting change) $72 million
- Scope - $15 million ... in this paragraph the Northwest MEC takes credit for being the first to receive dollar credits for such a provision.
As far as a judge invalidating scope its never really been a issue so of course no judge has ruled on it. If you go back and read the court transcripts if they are still available you will see the judge seemed to have no question in his mind it was within his authority.
We agree that an agreement was reached by mutual consent. That is the factual history. The results speak for themselves and what gets stated at a public hearing and what happens behind closed doors are entirely different. Depositions, past practice and ALPA publications descriptive of the process used during concessionary bargaining seem clear to me.
PM sent with regard to the Delta negotiations. No need for collateral damage over something that happened years ago... and to my F-NWA friends, my apologies for airing your dirty laundry while keeping mine tucked away.
Last edited by Bucking Bar; 01-20-2011 at 05:58 PM.
01-20-2011, 06:27 PM
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,619
Let me correct this for you sailing.
There are however pilots on here who can't post a single good thing about DALPA/ALPA.
By the way, why is it that sailing and slow and scambo and the other ALPA insiders always disappear whenever the words "Flight Pay Loss released to constituents in written format" are mentioned.
There are however pilots on here who can't post a single good thing about DALPA/ALPA.
By the way, why is it that sailing and slow and scambo and the other ALPA insiders always disappear whenever the words "Flight Pay Loss released to constituents in written format" are mentioned.
01-20-2011, 07:02 PM
Da Hudge
Joined APC: Oct 2006
Position: Poodle Whisperer
Posts: 17,473
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
