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01-20-2011, 01:54 PM

#57551

Going2Baja

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Ferd - Nice find! That would be nice wouldn't it!

Baja.

01-20-2011, 02:09 PM

#57552

Ferd149

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Originally Posted by Going2Baja

Ferd - Nice find! That would be nice wouldn't it!

Baja.

Thanks, but I do have to admit I was looking for flight attendant pictures. There are a couple of senior mommas in LAX (and commute from PHX) that I would love to embarrass with yellow gogo boot pictures

01-20-2011, 02:55 PM

#57553

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It is my understanding that at the next MEC Meeting the Flight Pay Loss Committee will be taking input and giving recommendations.

This is not an answer to my question, but a deflection. Follow the money.

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Originally Posted by scambo1

Scambo?

Duuuude...not an insider. I am and always have been a line pilot. Volunteered for a committee many years ago, didn't have a mustache. I would also like to see FPL data posted monthly on the DALPA website.

My bad, must be those Delta crew meals clogging up my remaining memory cells.

01-20-2011, 03:20 PM

#57554

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Originally Posted by Ferd149

Bored (yes I should be doing my training CD, but) and ran across this. I used to watch the "Banana Boats" go past AZ State when I was a kid and my goal was to be a Hughes pilot someday. Guess you can say I made it.

But, looking at the route map, can you imagine how little we would need Alaska if Republic would have had the balls to run a western airline?

and what about combined with this one?

I've always been interested in the "what could have been" in history.

Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it!
Took the Banana Boat to survival school!

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01-20-2011, 03:46 PM

#57555

Going2Baja

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Thanks, but I do have to admit I was looking for flight attendant pictures.

I was looking the other day for "flight attendant on airbus cockpit desk." Couldn't seem to find one. LOL!!

Baja.

01-20-2011, 03:52 PM

#57556

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Originally Posted by Nosmo King

This is not an answer to my question, but a deflection. Follow the money.

My bad, must be those Delta crew meals clogging up my remaining memory cells.

It is not a deflection, it is an answer to the status of the Committee created by a Resolution from a LEC.

01-20-2011, 03:58 PM

#57557

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It is my understanding that at the next MEC Meeting the Flight Pay Loss Committee will be taking input and giving recommendations.

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Originally Posted by scambo1

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

It is not a deflection, it is an answer to the status of the Committee created by a Resolution from a LEC.

My question made no reference to a Committee.

01-20-2011, 04:12 PM

#57558

sailingfun

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Originally Posted by Bucking Bar

That is a mischaracterization (to put it nicely). Delta followed the same model NWA did with similar results. It remains a fact that no Judge has ever invalidated a scope clause.

A negotiation took place where scope relaxation was monetized in the form of bargaining credits and distributed amongst other parts of the contract(s).

The Negotiator's Notepad publications, ZipLines and Testimony all document what happened.

Can you post a link to those documents. What you have posted goes directly against what those involved in the process told me. Where did all these monetized credits go? I did not see any improvements anywhere in the contract. Your saying it was going to be worse?
I try and read every document from the union. I never saw one that stated they were able to trade scope for other improvements at Delta.
As far as a judge invalidating scope its never really been a issue so of course no judge has ruled on it. If you go back and read the court transcripts if they are still available you will see the judge seemed to have no question in his mind it was within his authority.

01-20-2011, 04:16 PM

#57559

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Originally Posted by iceman49

Ferd, not sure if it had anything to do with having the stones to run it, but with each merger it seems that the acquiring company has a corporate headquarters basis, whereby the route structure is systematically deconstructed favoring a preconceived model based on data developed for and by the corporation (you don't know what you don't know). When NWA took over REP, they de-emphasized PHX and LAS, when you downsize the hubs, less traffic and eventually they are taken virtually out of the system; it confirms the corporate think tank..."see, the traffic has dropped off to virtually nothing..just as we predicted, good thing we pulled out of those money losing stations." I we know what happened to PHX and LAS and I predict the same for MSP, CVG and possibly MEM.
As far as history, I'm a big believer in those who ignore it, will repeat it!
Took the Banana Boat to survival school!

Just curious, How did NW's cost structure in PHX and LAS compare to SWA at the time? Could that perhaps have had something to do with losing those hubs?